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[DISCUSSION] Kanye West - Donda (One Week Later) - HipHop

[DISCUSSION] Kanye West - Donda (One Week Later)

Posted: 05 Sep 2021 08:40 AM PDT

Now that you've had a week to listen to the album how do you feel about it?

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[DISCUSSION] Do you we really want artists to evolve?

Posted: 05 Sep 2021 03:05 PM PDT

CLB dropped and the sentiment of Drake sounding the same popped up yet again. However, thoughts like that have been circulating this sub for awhile.

Dababy is constantly called out for sounding exactly the same, Polo G comes under fire for it and I even see Lil Baby getting called out for it time to time.

One of my favorite artists, Rico Nasty, faces this criticism as well, and I just wanted to explore it more.

What do you expect from an artist's new releases? The same general sound just a bit better? While there maybe some objective measures like wordplay complexity and layers of beats, "improvement" is subjective and becomes even harder to identify when wanting more of the same but better.

So is it a new sound direction completely? Are any of us really looking back and are grateful that Wayne gave us Rebirth? It does have some songs I enjoy but it's definitely the black sheep of his discography and I don't think the points he got for branching out was worth it in the long run. Something even more experimental than that and you got to ask, "What makes you believe this artist wants to and is capable of pulling off such a feat?".

So is it about recapturing a certain sound? This criticism has been levied against Wayne, Drake, Rico, and many many more artists. But then that's not really evolution then is it? That's just kind of hoping an artist makes your favorite songs from them over and over again. Which is actually something sometimes I basically want too, if I'm honest with myself.

Just curious about people's thoughts on this. Maybe (over)saturation plays a big role too.

Edit: Just want to say I'm glad this post picked up some steam. It's really cool seeing people's thoughts on this!

Edit 2: Just saw my typo in the title. My bad.

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Masego - Navajo

Posted: 05 Sep 2021 06:24 AM PDT

[LEAK] Kanye West - New Again [OG] (Scrapped Chris Brown Verse)

Posted: 05 Sep 2021 07:40 PM PDT

[DISCUSSION] What Are Some Songs That Address "The State of Hip Hop?"

Posted: 05 Sep 2021 07:10 AM PDT

I'm trying to find different songs that critique the state of hip hop or the culture as a whole at various points in time to see how much of the common criticisms have remained the same. This is all I've been able to come up with so far:

  • Common- Used to Love H.E.R
  • GZA- Labels
  • De La Soul- Stakes is High
  • Nas- Hip Hop is Dead
  • Jay Z- D.O.A (Death of Autotune)

What are you guys' favorite one's? If you could try and mention the context of the song.

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Sunday General Discussion Thread - September 5th, 2021

Posted: 05 Sep 2021 09:28 AM PDT

Happy Labour Day weekend to all the new moms out there 🙏

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Action Bronson - Through The Eyes Of A G (Ft. Ab-Soul)

Posted: 05 Sep 2021 08:41 AM PDT

[FRESH] Knxwledge - bettrsayno (Kodak Black - Senseless remix)

Posted: 05 Sep 2021 04:05 PM PDT

A$AP Twelvyy - Diamonds (feat. A$AP Rocky)

Posted: 05 Sep 2021 09:42 AM PDT

8-Ball & MJG (feat. The Notorious B.I.G & Project Pat) - Relax And Take Notes (2007)

Posted: 05 Sep 2021 02:41 PM PDT

The Alchemist - White Lines (Danny Brown instrumental)

Posted: 05 Sep 2021 02:08 PM PDT

Kembe X - Caged Bird ft. Isaiah Rashad

Posted: 05 Sep 2021 08:42 PM PDT

Mobb Deep - Bloodsport

Posted: 05 Sep 2021 07:12 AM PDT

Ja Rule - New York (Feat Fat Joe & Jadakiss)

Posted: 05 Sep 2021 09:12 AM PDT

Skinnyman -- Council Estate of Mind

Posted: 05 Sep 2021 03:29 PM PDT

Tha Dogg Pound - Get Out My Way

Posted: 05 Sep 2021 09:36 PM PDT

Clover Hope Revists Erykah Badu's Debut Album: Baduizm | Pitchfork

Posted: 05 Sep 2021 08:47 AM PDT

Lupe Fiasco & Gemini/Gem Stones - We On (2007)

Posted: 05 Sep 2021 01:42 PM PDT

[DISCUSSION] 6ix9ine- TattleTales (One Year Later)

Posted: 05 Sep 2021 10:05 AM PDT

There is a TLDR at the end.

A year ago on September 4th 2020 69 dropped his follow up to his studio debut (Dummy Boy) titled TattleTales. 69 is no stranger to controversy but received his most after turning state's witness and testifying in court against the 9 trey bloods. This angered many people that cosplay as gangsters on the internet and many thought 69 would be finished.

About a year later 69 on is released on house arrest and goes on insta live and sets the record at 2 million watchers (has since been broken). He then goes on to make the "house arrest trilogy" releasing videos for 3 songs GOOBA, TROLLZ, and YAYA (PUNANI was released when he was free). Contrary to what others thought, not only was 69 still here, he was still rapping about the same old gang stuff and embraced being a snitch. And his songs were very popular, even securing a #1 spot and forcing Billboard to change its merch bundle rules. Things seemed to look good for 69, until TattleTales came out and sold 56k copies first week, well under its 150k projection charting at #4 on the Billboard 200.

TattleTales has a half hour run time across 15 tracks. It has less features than "Dummy Boy" due to a black ball on 69, much to the project's detriment. 69 also employs a much more subdued rap style on most of the project. I'll go track by track rating it and giving my thoughts.

1) LOCKED UP Pt. 2(ft. Akon)

Akon got a lot of heat for putting 69 on his classic song "Locked Up". 69 is introspective here reflecting on how he got in his predicament. It is interesting to hear his side, but his vocals are grating at points and Akon is the best part of the song. - 4/10

2) TUTU

No feature listed but it sounds like there is someone else hitting high notes. Personally this person hurts the song. The song is basically a "I have a lot of money and you're all my sons" song. It isn't that bad and is a good example of the more subdued 69 rap style employed on the album. - 5/10

3) GOOBA

The first single from the project, this song is a normal 69 song having him yell and threaten you. He also embraces being a snitch and calls out people clout chasing him. 6/10

4) WAIT

Another example of the subdued rap style 69 tries to employ on this project, I think it is pretty solid and it definitely helps that the song is under 2 min. - 7/10

5) CHARLIE (Ft. SMILEZ)

This song features SMILEZ, one of the biggest goober nerd ass jocks in the world. And he's 100% an industry plant. His verse isn't terrible here but his music is generally horrid. 69 saying "Ray Charles, I ain't never seen a bitch I need" is so dumb I love it. - 6/10

6) TROLLZ (Ft. Nicki Minaj)

The biggest song off the project and probably the best, I like the subdued style 69 uses and later jumping into his older yelling style. Minaj is also great on the song roasting Usher, Meek, and Cardi. - 8.5/10

7) NINI (Ft. Leftside)

A dancehall song that I actually like, Leftside is good on this and the beat sounds like something that would get played in 2016 when this music saw a US revival. - 7.5/10

8) PUNANI

This song is fucking terrible, it doesn't help that there is a leaked version with Tory Lanez that is better. But he took his feature off because it would not be a good look to be on the album. Then he shot Meg.- 3/10

9) YAYA

The Spanish banger on the project, you can't help but compare it to BEBE and MALA from Dummy Boy which were better, but this isn't terrible - 5.5/10

10) LEAH (Ft. Akon)

Akon interpolates Bryan Adam's "Heaven" for the chorus (although this sub may know it from DJ Sammy's version from the early 2000s) which is good, someone needs to sample this. 69 has a couple of good lines (She wants to take ecstasy pills) but overall it is whatever. 69 kind of ruins Akon on this. - 4/10

11) GATA (Ft. Lil AK)

That clown Academics is on this. And he's the best part of the song. The beat is ass and 69 repeats like 10 things over a 2 minute song. - 3/10

12) GTL

The beginning reminds me of Prisoner 1 & 2 by Lupe so that is already an L for 69 since that song is 8 min of fire. This sounds like a first draft of his "Locked Up" verse and it is done through a prison phone. I get that it is meant to be more emotional, but I really just don't care. - 3.5/10

13) AVA

Showing 69's new subdued style on a more toned down beat it isn't terrible, just not the 69 people know - 5.5/10

14) R.E.D. (Ft. Sleiman)

This is dogshit. This is also a diss to A Boogie, if you didn't know that then that is how effective it was.- 1/10

15) TROLLZ - Alternate Version (Ft. Nicki Minaj)

This was most likely made to take advantage of the Billboard rule on remixes/other editions that LNX took advantage of. It cuts the song down while giving both a slightly different verse. - 8/10

Overall Tattletales suffers from 69 being generally blackballed and his features largely not clearing verses. Dummy Boy was solid largely because of the features (7/10 album imho). This album also sees a big departure from 69's scream rap that his fans like with many songs being more subdued. I do think it is a better project than most people do, but it isn't as good as his last work. Now I have to listen to Late Registration to scrub my ears.

Song Score (Average of all song scores) = 5.2/10

Project Score (How much I enjoyed the project) = 5/10

Overall Score = 5.1

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TLDR: TattleTales is a departure from the feature heavy "Dummy Boy" and the scream rap associated with 69. Some of the songs are still good. TROLLZ, WAIT,CHARLIE, and NINI made my main playlist (1307 songs at about 78 hours of music) but it isn't as hype as his earlier stuff sans TROLLZ. I know most people can't have a legitimate conversation about 69 on this sub, but consider the project or the much better "Dummy Boy". I know someone will ratio this post by saying snitch9 or something.

Score - 5.1

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[FRESH] Sideshow - interchangeable feat. MAVI + Na-Kel Smith.

Posted: 05 Sep 2021 01:05 PM PDT

Da$H - Grain of Salt

Posted: 05 Sep 2021 05:30 AM PDT

Dro Kenji - "KILL CUPID" featuring $NOT (Official Music Video)

Posted: 05 Sep 2021 09:29 PM PDT
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