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December Announcements + Feedback Thread - HipHop

December Announcements + Feedback Thread

Posted: 23 Dec 2020 12:25 PM PST

Beep boop, friendly neighborhood mod bot here. It's been a long time since the last announcement so here we are with some recent rule changes, reminders, and announcements. Of course, this thread is for feedback too.

Rule Changes

Banning scores in the title of review posts: For a while now, too much of the discussion on review posts has been solely about the score and none of the other content of the reviews. This drags down the quality of discussion and is generally dumb. This rule won't be able to completely stop people from hyperfixating on scores, but hopefully the scores not being in the title will prevent some of the kneejerk reactions and get people to actually click the review more often. As a reminder, the rules already banned comments solely about the score. But hopefully the title rule is more easily enforceable and creates less of those comments in the first place.

AOTY lists are unbanned: We will still continue doing the Listmas AOTY wrapup post that we've been doing for the last few years, but we no longer feel that individual AOTY posts from various publications need to be banned.

Clarifications on discussion threads and what content is allowed here

Discussion threads outside the DD are gaining tractions, which is amazing, but don't post low effort ranking threads ("What's your favorite ____?" / "What's the best ____?"): About a year ago there was a thread about the sub going downhill, in which a lot of the comments were about how they feel it's because mods remove all discussion threads outside of the DD. We were adamant that we had already been allowing discussion threads provided that they weren't one of the things explicitly banned in the rules, but the majority of discussion threads people were trying to post fell under that category. Maybe because people didn't see discussion threads making front page, they didn't try making their own. Thankfully it seems like as a result of seeing some good discussion posts hit front page like "Who are some rappers whose influence far outweighs their popularity?", Where does Odd Future fit in the history of hip hop?, etc more people are hopping on the bandwagon and posting their own discussion threads. Seems like we've reached the point of visibility that we needed to keep the trend going. However, we've also been getting quite a few rule-breaking ranking threads. "What is your favourite song from an artist you don't like?", "what are some of the best or most memorable opening lines in hip hop history?", are prime examples of the low effort, repetitive ranking threads that the rules specifically ban. Unfortunately as the modteam has been stretched thin as of late, some of those ranking threads were left up for hours and received a lot of attention—which undoubtedly inspired others to post more of them. A few of these rule-breaking threads were even posted by a mod who, rest assured, will be stoned to death for his crimes. For a second it seemed like the sub was turning into /r/askreddit with the low effort variations of "what's the best X" and the copycat "what's the worst X". That's why we are clarifying that while discussion posts are allowed and encouraged, there are still a few types of thread (specifically ranking threads) that are banned outside of the Daily Discussion. Here are the relevant sections of the rules:

Not allowed are the following discussion posts:

  • Posts bashing artists or their fans
  • Objective questions with definite answers
  • Questions or complaints regarding the status of songs, albums or release dates
  • Questions that require users to rank, list or post various artists, songs or albums (who or what is the worst X, who or what is underrated/overrated, etc.)
  • Questions about the appeal of a song, album or artist ("Why is song so popular?", "why is artist so slept on?", etc.)
  • Posts seeking music recommendations
  • Posts seeking the titles of songs you've heard but can't find
  • Posts seeking the sources of samples
  • Low effort posts (Text/self-posts with little or no body text)
  • Reposts of recent discussions and "done to death" discussions
  • Speculation about minor website updates and social media activity or lack thereof (e.g. website has been updated with a clock, artist has removed all of their Instagram photos, artist has deleted their tweets/Twitter account)

Examples of appropriate discussion threads:

Hyperpop does not belong in this sub: We want to reiterate that we are a sub for hiphop and rnb. While hiphop has been crossing over with other genres and becoming more melodic, there are still limits to what can be posted here. The modteam voted on hyperpop and overwhelmingly decided that it does not belong in this sub as it is clearly not hiphop or rnb. For example, a post of the recent 100Gecs album was removed. A post of the 100Gecs remix album featuring multiple rappers was allowed. We recognize that some confusion over what belongs in the sub may be due to the rules stating that we allow hiphop, rnb, and future beats. Future beats is very nebulously defined and some say it isn't even a genre. We want to clarify that when we say the sub allows future beats we don't mean any music that is experimental or forward-thinking. We include this term to be explicitly inclusive of artists that bridge hiphop and electronic like Flying Lotus, DJ Rashad, Kaytranada, Soulection, etc (who have a foundation in hiphop/rnb and have always been posted here).

Our current/ongoing Initiatives

AOTY writeups: The 2020 AOTY writeups have begun. Thank you to /u/Nerdgasem for running this year's event.

Top Ten Tuesdays: Thank you to /u/CaptainGordan for taking over the TTT series. The series will return after AOTY writeups.

Redoing the essentials list: We have not made progress on this, but we still really want to do this. The essentials list as it is currently is far too large and is intimidating to people new to hiphop. We are looking for a couple users very knowledgable about hiphop history to help us revamp the list and make it really just the essentials, so please fill out this form if you wanna help. Oldheads this is your time to shine.

Overposted List: We'll update the Overposted List (formerly known as the Favorites List) in the near future, a post where the whole community votes as usual.

New mods: As alluded to earlier, the modteam has gotten stretched thin. A lot of the moderators for this sub have gone inactive so even with the new mods we added last year we are not able to do everything we need to. This means not catching rule-breaking posts quickly enough (letting them be on front page for multiple hours), not updating the essentials list, not responding to modmail quickly enough, and overall being less effective at everything we're supposed to do. We will be making another post in the coming weeks officially taking applications for new mods. We are also demodding some old inactive mods.

Random notes

Read the rules: Please. We're begging you.

Use modmail if you have questions: The DD is not the place to post if you're trying to reach the mods. The DD is not the place to ask why something got removed. The DD is for hiphop discussion. If you have a question of complaint for the mods use the modmail. It's linked on the sidebar, or you can just send a PM to /r/hiphopheads.

Give us feedback here: feedback on these rule changes, on the state of sub, on things you want to see. Whatever constructive feedback you might have.

Love, the mods

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[FRESH ALBUM] Lil Durk - The Voice

Posted: 23 Dec 2020 09:00 PM PST

Apple Music

Spotify

Tracklist:

  1. Redman

  2. Refugee

  3. Death Aint Easy

  4. The Voice

  5. Backdoor

  6. Still Trappin (feat King Von)

  7. Stay Down (feat 6LACK & Young Thug)

  8. Free Jamell (feat YNW Melly)

  9. Misunderstood

  10. Not The Same

  11. India, Pt. 3

  12. Coming Clean

  13. Going Strong

  14. Changes

  15. Lamborghini Mirrors (feat Booka600)

  16. To Be Honest

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Are Producer Tags Necessary?: Producers like Dre, Ye, and the Neptunes let their distinctive musical styles be their signature, but as technology lowered the barrier for entry, producers now use tags to stand out in an oversaturated industry

Posted: 23 Dec 2020 05:53 AM PST

Lil Durk Dropping His Album ‘The Voice’ Tonight at Midnight (12/24)

Posted: 23 Dec 2020 01:04 PM PST

album is dedicated to King Von

link to IG post

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RIP Ecstasy (John Fletcher) of Whodini

Posted: 23 Dec 2020 11:20 AM PST

QTip: RIP to Ecstasy from Whodini of the most under appreciated voices in hip hop. Too many hits! Condolences to his fam (https://twitter.com/QtipTheAbstract/status/1341813902372458502)

Questlove: One Love to Ecstasy of the Legendary Whodini. This man was legendary and a pivotal member of one of the most legendary groups in hip hop. This is sad man. (https://twitter.com/questlove/status/1341811763122212866)

Jermaine Dupri (who was once a dancer on tour with them): My God, this one hurts me so bad,I can't even believe I'm posting this,Ex you know I love you thank you for every word,every conversation every good time,may your soul Rest In Power (https://twitter.com/jermainedupri/status/1341826922553241601)

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"Scores of music industry condolences are being offered to the familiy of John Fletcher aka Ecstasy of legendary hip-hop trio Whodini on his passing at the age of 56. The 80s rap group (with members Jahlil and DJ Grandmaster Dee) was early on the scene as stars of the then burgeoning music genre, where they kicked songs with funky grooves and meaningful messages about "One Love," "The Freaks Come Out At Night," and "Friends." The cause of his death has not officially been released at this time.

As a Brooklyn native, Ecstasy was the mature slick wordsmith with a fashion flair like no other. He is primarily known as the group member who wore a leather Zoro type hat and routinely performed shirtless at live events. It was his stand out style and smooth vocals that made him one of the few rap artists that gave a blueprint to having that x-factor on wax and on stage."

https://www.vibe.com/2020/12/ecstasy-of-whodini-passes-away

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Lil Wayne - I’m Me

Posted: 23 Dec 2020 12:42 PM PST

[FRESH] DOMi & JD Beck - Madvillainy Tribute (Madlib / MF DOOM)

Posted: 23 Dec 2020 12:04 PM PST

Daily Discussion Thread 12/23/2020

Posted: 23 Dec 2020 03:36 PM PST

Welcome to the /r/hiphopheads daily discussion thread!

This thread is for:

  • objective questions with right/wrong answers (e.g. "Does anyone know what is happening with MIXTAPE?", "What is the sample in SONG?")
  • general hip-hop discussion
  • meta posts...e.g. ideas for the sub

Thread Guidelines

  • Do not create a separate self post for these types of discussions outside of this thread - if you do, your post will be removed, as stated in the guidelines.

  • Please be helpful and friendly.

  • If a question has been asked many times before, provide a link to a thread that contains the answer.

Weekly/Monthly Threads

Other ways to interact

There are a number of other ways to interact with other members of HHH:

New to /r/hiphopheads or hip-hop in general?

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E40 Slang Battle with Some Random White Guy

Posted: 23 Dec 2020 11:15 AM PST

B.o.B - Airplanes (feat. Hayley Williams)

Posted: 23 Dec 2020 04:52 PM PST

50 Best Songs of 2020 - Fantano

Posted: 23 Dec 2020 02:40 PM PST

[FRESH ALBUM] Larry June - Numbers

Posted: 23 Dec 2020 09:24 AM PST

Billboard Chart Discussion - Week Of December 26, 2020 | Taylor Swift blocks Kid Cudi from #1 album

Posted: 23 Dec 2020 12:39 PM PST

Billboard Hot 100 chart

Position Title Artist ▲/▼ Last week Weeks Charting Peak
1 Willow Taylor Swift ▲+100 [FRESH] 1 1
2 All I Want For Christmas Is You Mariah Carey ▼-1 1 42 1
3 Rockin' Around The Christmas Tree Brenda Lee - 3 37 2
4 Jingle Bell Rock Bobby Helms ▲+1 5 34 3
5 Mood 24kGoldn Featuring iann dior ▼-3 2 19 1
6 A Holly Jolly Christmas Burl Ives ▲+8 14 18 4
7 It's The Most Wonderful Time Of The Year Andy Williams ▼-1 6 19 6
8 Positions Ariana Grande ▼-4 4 8 1
9 Dynamite BTS ▲+15 24 17 1
10 Feliz Navidad Jose Feliciano - 10 13 10
11 Let It Snow, Let It Snow, Let It Snow Dean Martin ▲+4 15 12 11
12 It's Beginning To Look A Lot Like Christmas Perry Como And The Fontane Sisters With Mitchell Ayres And His Orchestra ▲+23 35 7 12
13 Holy Justin Bieber Featuring Chance The Rapper ▼-4 9 13 3
14 Last Christmas Wham! ▼-3 11 18 11
15 The Christmas Song (Merry Christmas To You) Nat King Cole ▲+1 16 25 11
16 Go Crazy Chris Brown & Young Thug ▼-3 13 32 9
17 Laugh Now Cry Later Drake Featuring Lil Durk ▼-9 8 18 2
18 Blinding Lights The Weeknd ▼-11 7 55 1
19 Sleigh Ride The Ronettes ▲+1 20 10 19
20 I Hope Gabby Barrett Featuring Charlie Puth ▼-8 12 51 3
21 Champagne Problems Taylor Swift ▲+80 [FRESH] 1 21
22 Body Megan Thee Stallion ▼-4 18 4 12
23 Dakiti Bad Bunny & Jhay Cortez ▼-6 17 7 5
24 Lemonade Internet Money & Gunna Featuring Don Toliver & NAV ▼-5 19 18 6
25 For The Night Pop Smoke Featuring Lil Baby & DaBaby ▼-4 21 24 6
26 Happy Holiday / The Holiday Season Andy Williams ▲+3 29 7 24
27 Levitating Dua Lipa Featuring DaBaby - 27 11 20
28 Underneath The Tree Kelly Clarkson ▼-3 25 8 25
29 Run Rudolph Run Chuck Berry ▲+11 40 7 29
30 Kings & Queens Ava Max ▼-8 22 19 13
31 Rudolph The Red-Nosed Reindeer Gene Autry ▲+3 34 11 16
32 Santa Tell Me Ariana Grande ▲+7 39 7 32
33 Bang! AJR ▼-5 28 24 24
34 No Body, No Crime Taylor Swift Featuring HAIM ▲+67 [FRESH] 1 34
35 34+35 Ariana Grande ▼-9 26 7 8
36 Therefore I Am Billie Eilish ▼-13 23 6 2
37 Christmas (Baby Please Come Home) Darlene Love ▼-6 31 6 29
38 White Christmas Bing Crosby ▼-6 32 19 12
39 'Tis The Damn Season Taylor Swift ▲+62 [FRESH] 1 39
40 Gold Rush Taylor Swift ▲+61 [FRESH] 1 40
41 Tequila Shots Kid Cudi ▲+60 [FRESH] 1 41
42 It's Beginning To Look A Lot Like Christmas Michael Buble ▼-9 33 4 33
43 (There's No Place Like) Home For The Holidays Perry Como ▼-6 37 6 32
44 Whats Poppin Jack Harlow Featuring DaBaby, Tory Lanez & Lil Wayne ▲+3 47 45 2
45 Tolerate It Taylor Swift ▲+56 [FRESH] 1 45
46 Wonderful Christmastime Paul McCartney ▼-1 45 3 45
47 Deck The Halls Nat King Cole ▲+54 [FRESH] 1 47
48 What You Know Bout Love Pop Smoke ▼-2 46 15 25
49 She Knows This Kid Cudi ▲+52 [FRESH] 1 49
50 Rockstar DaBaby Featuring Roddy Ricch ▼-8 42 35 1
51 Lonely Justin Bieber & benny blanco ▼-1 50 9 14
52 Happiness Taylor Swift ▲+49 [FRESH] 1 52
53 Whoopty CJ ▼-2 51 6 51
54 Show Out Kid Cudi, Skepta & Pop Smoke ▲+47 [FRESH] 1 54
55 WAP Cardi B Featuring Megan Thee Stallion ▼-12 43 19 1
56 Holiday Lil Nas X ▼-8 48 5 37
57 Evermore Taylor Swift Featuring Bon Iver ▲+44 [FRESH] 1 57
58 Take Me Home For Christmas Dan + Shay ▲+30 88 2 58
59 Better Together Luke Combs ▼-5 54 11 30
60 On Me Lil Baby ▼-30 30 2 30
61 Ivy Taylor Swift ▲+40 [FRESH] 1 61
62 Monster Shawn Mendes & Justin Bieber ▼-24 38 4 8
63 Coney Island Taylor Swift Featuring The National ▲+38 [FRESH] 1 63
64 Another Day Kid Cudi ▲+37 [FRESH] 1 64
65 Hawai Maluma & The Weeknd ▼-10 55 17 12
66 Diamonds Sam Smith ▼-13 53 13 40
67 Dorothea Taylor Swift ▲+34 [FRESH] 1 67
68 Long Story Short Taylor Swift ▲+33 [FRESH] 1 68
69 Here Comes Santa Claus (Right Down Santa Claus Lane) Gene Autry ▼-33 36 9 28
70 I Should Probably Go To Bed Dan + Shay ▼-10 60 20 42
71 Cowboy Like Me Taylor Swift ▲+30 [FRESH] 1 71
72 Starting Over Chris Stapleton ▼-14 58 16 25
73 Big, Big Plans Chris Lane ▼-21 52 11 42
74 Way Out Jack Harlow Featuring Big Sean ▲+27 [FRESH] 1 74
75 Marjorie Taylor Swift ▲+26 [FRESH] 1 75
76 B.S. Jhene Aiko Featuring H.E.R. ▼-14 62 20 24
77 Tyler Herro Jack Harlow - 77 8 34
78 Mr. Solo Dolo III Kid Cudi ▲+23 [FRESH] 1 78
79 You Broke Me First. Tate McRae ▼-15 64 17 50
80 Dive Kid Cudi ▲+21 [FRESH] 1 80
81 Without You The Kid LAROI ▼-18 63 2 63
82 Closure Taylor Swift ▲+19 [FRESH] 1 82
83 Love You Like I Used To Russell Dickerson ▼-22 61 15 31
84 Hallelujah Carrie Underwood & John Legend ▲+12 96 2 84
85 Heaven On Earth Kid Cudi ▲+16 [FRESH] 1 85
86 My Ex's Best Friend Machine Gun Kelly X blackbear ▼-19 67 18 28
87 Rockin' Around The Christmas Tree Justin Bieber ▼-16 71 3 71
88 Mr. Right Now 21 Savage & Metro Boomin Featuring Drake ▼-23 65 11 10
89 Reminds Me Of You The Kid LAROI & Juice WRLD ▲+12 [FRESH] 1 89
90 Sad People Kid Cudi ▲+11 [FRESH] 1 90
91 Damaged Kid Cudi ▲+10 [FRESH] 1 91
92 Forever After All Luke Combs ▼-26 66 8 2
93 Ain't Always The Cowboy Jon Pardi ▼-37 56 16 55
94 Prisoner Miley Cyrus Featuring Dua Lipa ▼-26 68 4 54
95 Cry Baby Megan Thee Stallion Featuring DaBaby ▲+6 [FRESH] 2 71
96 Good Time Niko Moon ▼-17 79 11 71
97 Throat Baby (Go Baby) BRS Kash ▼-16 81 9 69
98 Errbody Lil Baby ▼-57 41 2 41
99 Favorite Time Of Year Carrie Underwood ▼-19 80 3 80
100 Beautiful Trip Kid Cudi ▲+1 [FRESH] 1 100

Billboard Global 200 chart (most popular songs globally)

Position Title Artist ▲/▼ Last week Weeks Charting Peak
1 All I Want For Christmas Is You Mariah Carey - 1 7 1
2 Willow Taylor Swift ▲+99 [FRESH] 1 2
3 Dakiti Bad Bunny & Jhay Cortez ▼-1 2 7 1
4 Rockin' Around The Christmas Tree Brenda Lee ▲+3 7 5 4
5 Last Christmas Wham! ▼-2 3 6 3
6 Dynamite BTS ▼-1 5 15 1
7 Jingle Bell Rock Bobby Helms ▲+2 9 5 7
8 Mood 24kGoldn Featuring iann dior ▼-2 6 15 2
9 Blinding Lights The Weeknd ▼-5 4 15 4
10 Santa Tell Me Ariana Grande ▲+1 11 5 10

Billboard 200 chart

Position Title Artist Sales Change Last week Weeks Charting
1 Evermore Taylor Swift 331,033 (156,668 pure) -- [FRESH] 1
2 Man On The Moon III: The Chosen Kid Cudi 148,011 (16,478 pure) -- [FRESH] 1
3 Folklore Taylor Swift 128,522 (100,328 pure) +293% 11 21
4 Christmas Michael Buble 54,569 (9,491 pure) -2% 4 89
5 Thats What They All Say Jack Harlow 51,570 (2,419 pure) -- [FRESH] 1
6 My Gift Carrie Underwood 45,131 (25,739 pure) -12% 5 12
7 Shoot For The Stars Aim For The Moon Pop Smoke 43,978 (371 pure) -2% 6 24
8 The Christmas Song Nat King Cole err err 7 55
9 El Ultimo Tour del Mundo Bad Bunny err err 2 3
10 Merry Christmas Mariah Carey 40,616 (5,362 pure) +14% 10 98

Frequently Asked Questions:

Q: Why is X artist higher than Y artist on the 200 chart, even though X artist sold less?

A: This is because of a discrepancy between Billboard's ranking and the ranking from the website that the sales data is scraped from

Q: Where do you get the sales data from?

A: https://hitsdailydouble.com/sales_plus_streaming

Q: What does "err" mean on the 200 chart?

A: If you are seeing "err", that means that the bot I use to gather chart data couldn't identify sales data for a particular album because of a difference in album naming between Billboard and HitsDailyDouble

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Verzuz battle meant more to Oakland and the Bay Area than just entertainment

Posted: 23 Dec 2020 06:04 PM PST

Tory Lanez steals Seattle rapper Macntaj’s whole song for Boink Boink

Posted: 23 Dec 2020 02:33 AM PST

https://youtu.be/8gDwNW_fLVE

https://youtu.be/QR_qovfzSPg

Macntaj posted a video or story or whatever the fuck saying he ain know he stole it til his fans spammed him the video. Tory also putChromazz, who made this Meg diss song in his music video and Chair Girl who tossed a chair out a Toronto high rise and got tried in court for it.

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[FRESH] Navy Blue - Breathe (feat. yasiin bey)

Posted: 23 Dec 2020 07:39 AM PST

Big Sean - Beware ft. Lil Wayne, Jhene Aiko (Official Music Video)

Posted: 23 Dec 2020 02:12 PM PST

Mos Def - Sunshine

Posted: 23 Dec 2020 09:20 PM PST

[FRESH] Lil Durk & King Von - Still Trappin'

Posted: 23 Dec 2020 09:02 PM PST

John “Ecstasy” Fletcher of 80's rap group Whodini dies at 56

Posted: 23 Dec 2020 11:58 AM PST

[NOW ON STREAMING] Conway The Machine x Westside Gunn x Mach-Hommy - Gold Pots

Posted: 23 Dec 2020 12:22 PM PST

[FRESH ALBUM] Chris Webby - 28 Wednesdays Later

Posted: 23 Dec 2020 01:03 PM PST

[FRESH] Eminem - Key

Posted: 23 Dec 2020 01:22 PM PST

[Fresh Video] Lil Keed - Dead Doc (ft. Lil Gotit)

Posted: 23 Dec 2020 07:20 PM PST
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