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Daily Discussion Thread 12/08/2020 - HipHop

Daily Discussion Thread 12/08/2020 - HipHop

Daily Discussion Thread 12/08/2020

Posted: 08 Dec 2020 11:42 AM PST

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November 2020 RIAA Certifications

Posted: 08 Dec 2020 12:14 PM PST

Source is RIAA website.

Singles

Artist Single Certification Label
Offset & Metro Boomin Ric Flair Drip 6x Platinum Slaughter Gang/Epic
Lizzo Truth Hurts 6x Platinum Nice Life/Atlantic
21 Savage Bank Account 5x Platinum Slaughter Gang/Epic
21 Savage a lot (feat. J. Cole) 4x Platinum Slaughter Gang/Epic
21 Savage & Metro Boomin X (feat. Future) 3x Platinum Slaughter Gang/Epic
21 Savage Ball w/o You Platinum Slaughter Gang/Epic
21 Savage & Metro Boomin My Choppa Hate Niggas Gold Slaughter Gang/Epic
21 Savage & Metro Boomin Mad Stalkers (feat. Offset) Gold Slaughter Gang/Epic
21 Savage & Metro Boomin Rap Saved Me (feat. Quavo & Offset) Gold Slaughter Gang/Epic
21 Savage Can't Leave Without It Platinum Slaughter Gang/Epic
21 Savage Bad Business Gold Slaughter Gang/Epic
21 Savage Immortal Gold Slaughter Gang/Epic
21 Savage 1.5 Gold Slaughter Gang/Epic
21 Savage ASMR Gold Slaughter Gang/Epic
21 Savage Famous Gold Slaughter Gang/Epic
21 Savage Numb Gold Slaughter Gang/Epic
21 Savage All My Friends Gold Slaughter Gang/Epic
21 Savage Whole Lot Gold Slaughter Gang/Epic
21 Savage Facetime Gold Slaughter Gang/Epic
21 Savage AT&T Gold Slaughter Gang/Epic
21 Savage monster (feat. Childish Gambino) Gold Slaughter Gang/Epic
Kodak Black Zeze (feat. Travis Scott, & Offset) 5x Platinum Atlantic
Kodak Black Tunnel Vision 4x Platinum Atlantic
Kodak Black Codeine Dreaming (feat. Lil Wayne) 2x Platinum Atlantic
Kodak Black Calling My Spirit 2x Platinum Atlantic
Kodak Black Moshpit (feat. Juice WRLD) Gold Atlantic
Kodak Black First Day Out Gold Atlantic
Kanye West All of the Lights (feat. Rihanna, Kid Cudi, Tony Williams, The-Dream, Charlie Wilson, John Legend, La Roux, Alicia Keys, Elton John, Fergie, Ryan Leslie, Drake, Alvin Fields & Ken Lewis) 5x Platinum Roc-A-Fella
Flipp Dinero Leave Me Alone 4x Platinum Cinematic/We the Best/Epic
Cardi B WAP (feat. Megan Thee Stallion) 3x Platinum Atlantic
Megan Thee Stallion Cash Shit (feat. DaBaby) 2x Platinum 1501/300
Megan Thee Stallion Captain Hook Platinum 1501/300
Megan Thee Stallion Girls In The Hood Gold 1501/300
Megan Thee Stallion Realer Gold 1501/300
Megan Thee Stallion Sex Talk Gold 1501/300
Doja Cat Juicy 2x Platinum RCA
Doja Cat Go To Town Gold RCA
Doja Cat Candy Gold RCA
Doja Cat Cyber Sex Gold RCA
Doja Cat Rules Gold RCA
Queen Naija Medicine 2x Platinum Capitol
Ellie Goulding & Juice WRLD Hate Me 2x Platinum Interscope
NBA Youngboy Lil Top Platinum Atlantic
NBA Youngboy Bad Bad Gold Atlantic
NBA Youngboy Fine By Time Gold Atlantic
NBA Youngboy Red Eye Gold Atlantic
Joji Will He Platinum 88rising
Joji Demons Gold 88rising
6ix9ine Trollz (feat. Nicki Minaj) Platinum Create Music
Roddy Ricch Tip Toe (feat. A Boogie Wit Da Hoodie) Platinum Atlantic/Birdvision
dvsn Too Deep Gold OVO/Warner
dvsn Think About Me Gold OVO/Warner
NF Oh Lord Gold Capitol
NF Lost In The Moment (feat. Andreas Moss) Gold Capitol
Justin Bieber Holy (feat. Chance the Rapper) Gold Def Jam
Ella Mai Everything (feat. John Legend) Gold 10 Summers/Interscope
J.I. The Prince of N.Y. Need Me Gold G*Starr
Kehlani Toxic Gold Atlantic
Snoh Aalegra I Want You Around Gold Artium/AWAL
G-Eazy West Coast (feat. Blueface, ALLBLACK & YG) Gold BPG/RVG/RCA
Rod Wave The Greatest Gold Alamo
Jeezy Superfreak (feat. 2 Chainz) Gold Def Jam
Kash Doll Ice Me Out Gold Republic
Ari Lennox BMO Gold Dreamville/Interscope

Albums

Artist Album Certification Label
Jay-Z & Kanye West Watch the Throne 5x Platinum Roc-A-Fella
Kanye West Graduation 5x Platinum GOOD/Def Jam
Kanye West Late Registration 4x Platinum GOOD/Def Jam
Kanye West College Dropout 4x Platinum Roc-A-Fella/Def Jam
Kanye West MBDTF 3x Platinum GOOD/Def Jam
Kanye West 808s & Heartbreak 3x Platinum Roc-A-Fella/Def Jam
Kanye West Yeezus 2x Platinum GOOD/Def Jam
Roddy Ricch Please Excuse Me For Being Antisocial 2x Platinum Atlantic/Birdvision
Kodak Black Dying to Live Platinum Atlantic
Mustard Perfect 10 Platinum 10 Summers/Interscope
21 Savage Issa Album Platinum Slaughter Gang/Epic
Ski Mask The Slump God Stokeley Gold Victor Victor/Republic
Megan Thee Stallion Fever Gold 1501/300
Jeremih Jeremih Gold Def Jam
Jhené Aiko Souled Out Gold Def Jam
Fabolous Loso's Way Gold Def Jam
Doja Cat Hot Pink Gold RCA
Queen Naija Queen Naija EP Gold Capitol

How Do Certifications work?

When a song has 150,000,000 streams in the US or 1,000,000 sales, an artist can purchase a certification (for around ~$300). You don't automatically get a plaque when you cross the threshold. The label or the artist needs to buy it. Often artists will buy certifications in bulk before they release new music.

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Pusha T says next album is produced by Kanye & The Neptunes

Posted: 08 Dec 2020 03:45 PM PST

Here's How Action Bronson Dropped Over 125 Pounds in 2020

Posted: 08 Dec 2020 11:18 AM PST

TDE Engineer 'MixedByAli' Buys Original Death Row Records Studio

Posted: 08 Dec 2020 08:41 AM PST

Instagram

This is the most exciting news I've announced since the birth of my daughter.

This is Death Row Records former studio, where they recorded and mixed @drdre 'The Chronic 2001', @snoopdogg 'The Dog Pound', Tupac's 'All Eyes On Me' and countless other records that shaped my childhood and inspired me to create the music I make today, being from the west coast.

I'm proud to announce, this is now my facility.

Starting renovations next week and In the coming months I will be transforming this iconic hip-hop monument into Two of the BEST sounding @solidstatelogic / @augspurgermonitors mixing rooms in Los Angeles . We're looking forward to harnessing the energy & history from this studio and continue pumping out nothing but timeless hit records just as they did in the 90's.

All of this couldn't be possible without my best-friend and business partner @noblegent .

NoName Studios / EngineEars Office Coming Q2, 2021.

ForwardProgressAboveAllThings #EngineEars

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Hip-Hop Legend Kurtis Blow Has Successful Heart Transplant Surgery

Posted: 08 Dec 2020 10:08 AM PST

The legendary Kurtis Blow is still ticking. The Hip-Hop pioneer is recovering after a successful heart transplant surgery.

According to the Washington Informer, Blow, born Kurtis Walker, underwent heart transplant surgery on Sunday (Dec. 6) in Los Angeles per his wife Shirley Walker. Fortunately, the procedure was a success.

"We give all glory to God for the perfect heart and transplant," said the "Christmas Rappin'" rapper's wife. "He is out of surgery. Keep the prayers and praises up. God does all things well."

Kurtis Blow has been having issues with his heart for years. In 2016, he suffered a heart attack in Los Angeles and credited police officers who administered CPR with saving his life. In 2019, he had heart surgery that was initially thought to be successful but he suffered from complications.

Back in 1979, Kurtis Blow was the first rapper to be signed to a major label (Mercury Records) and his single "The Breaks" is recognized as the genre's first gold record.

We wish Kurtis Blow a speedy recovery.

https://hiphopwired.com/936033/hip-hop-legend-kurtis-blow-has-successful-heart-transplant-surgery/

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Rapper A Boogie Wit Da Hoodie Arrested in NJ on Gun, Drug Charges: Prosecutor

Posted: 08 Dec 2020 03:09 PM PST

Tyler, The Creator Interviews slowthai About 2020, Nudes, and New Masculinity

Posted: 08 Dec 2020 12:00 PM PST

[FRESH] Aries - CONVERSATIONS

Posted: 08 Dec 2020 09:06 PM PST

Reddit User sampled Andre 3000’s flute, so i freestyled over it (recorded on iphone mic cuz lazy)

Posted: 08 Dec 2020 07:23 PM PST

Juice WRLD - Legends

Posted: 08 Dec 2020 07:55 AM PST

André 3000 playing the flute with ethereal vibes

Posted: 08 Dec 2020 08:37 AM PST

Troy & Abed - Christmas Rap (Community)

Posted: 08 Dec 2020 11:34 AM PST

2017 VladTV Interview Used To Build Racketeering Case Against Casanova

Posted: 08 Dec 2020 04:47 PM PST

[FRESH] Cookin Soul x Freddie Gibbs (Freestyle)

Posted: 08 Dec 2020 12:19 PM PST

Is signing under artist-lead record labels overall a bad idea?

Posted: 08 Dec 2020 04:47 PM PST

Besides signing under Rick Ross (surprisingly), who promoted Meek Mill every chance he got by doing features and eventually giving Meek Mill his own record label, signing under artist-lead record labels is overall a bad idea?

To begin, J prince isn't even a rapper, but J Prince's Rap-a-Lot records pimps the hell out of his artists...Scarface didn't strike millions until Scarface became the president of Def Jam south and J Prince still has the nerve to claim credit over Scarface's entire career -- Scarface wrote his book on how he felt about J Prince and that's what triggered J Prince to write his rebuttal book.

Master P ran his label like a factory but his rappers became broke afterwards because they did not have any financial literacy and their money dried up after their careers did.

Birdman had Gillie The Kid and Juvenile ghostwrite for him. Birdman allows you to shine but he and his brother screws you over financially and they don't even pay for producer's beats. Lil Wayne basically signed a blood contract unable to leave cash money, even though he has his own Young Money imprint.

Gucci Mane went to jail and had to let go all of his signed artists, including Migos, etc. We have yet to see how it goes for Gucci's new 1017 label. Gucci had this infamous fallout with Waka Flocka over money issues and Waka retired from rapping because of contract issues

Rocafella was Dame Dash and Jay-Z until Jay-Z got greedy and wanted the whole pie and bought out Dame Dash when Def Jam bought Rocafella and named Jay-Z president. Kanye signing under Jay-Z just meant that Jay-Z sold Kanye's first 6 albums to Def Jam to get his own master's back.

Aaliyah died when she tried leaving her label. Family does not mix with business when it was her uncle's record label, and their family relations allowed her label to treat her like livestock, allowing her to be subjected to R Kelly and everything, just to make a hit.

People forget that Beyonce originated from the south and her daddy is super-gangsta when it comes to running Beyonce's career -- from selecting features to silencing the careers of Beyonce's competition, etc.

Biggie was reportedly broke when he died because Diddy owned all of Biggie's masters. Everybody that Diddy signs has to ghostwrite for Diddy, including Mase, Loon, etc. Diddy was such a bigger name than all his artists combined that his artists have to feed Diddy their best lyrics and they become washed-up in the process, listening to Diddy's suggestions instead of being their creative self -- just look at King Los. Dude wrote for Diddy and had enough bars to get out of that situation (when most could not) but couldn't sustain his own career to start it after doing his ghostwriting deeds.

2Pac signing with Deathrow was a gift and a curse. He got out of jail after Suge paid the bail money but then strange coincidences happened when 2Pac did all his 3 albums so fast that he wanted off of the label. The Makaveli album was done before the All Eyez on Me album, but Suge stalled 2Pac when it came to releasing his albums in the order 2Pac imagined it.

Eminem was a force before Dr Dre found him. Eminem ghostwrote for Dre, reviving his career, and got his own imprint. Same with 50 Cent. 50 was a force before Eminem found him. 50 didn't do much ghostwriting but he hated the 'structure'...50 didn't wait hand-over-fist for Dr Dre to slowly make his beats and instead got beats everywhere for his first album. 50 dropped mixtapes, got his imprint, and forced his label to drop his 2nd album with mixtapes having his album songs.

Signing with Shady records is like signing to a shadow that you cannot outrun. Eminem admitted that he used D12 as a stepping stone to gain Black acceptance in hip hop. Slaughterhouse is a mixed bag of: we want Eminem to cosign everything just like Rick Ross cosigned Meek Mill...BUT, we don't want Eminem to outshine us in every feature, and we have enough people in the group to make a 4-minute song. Eminem was the distant supporter watching Slaughterhouse consume themselves by overthinking their songs and going too 'pop/mainstream' on their album, and then blaming Eminem. Outside of 50, nobody else outran Eminem's shadow by signing under him.

Rakim signing to Aftermath was a mistake, because Dr Dre had the beats, but wanted Rakim to write gangsta lyrics, where Rakim declined and left. Dr Dre didn't clear a sample for Truth Hurts and had her project shelved (the sample deficit was taken out her album budget, making her unable to recoup it via album sales) due to his negligence that he thought he could get away with it, the same way timbaland and jay-z couldn't get away with the Big Pimpin' sample.

Roc Nation is a giant conglomerate filled with inconsistencies: They are a reflection of when business tactics supersedes creative arts...they drop Rhianna albums nonstop because it sells but are constipated when it comes to dropping the debut album of conscious rappers. Jay-Z likes to sign rappers who look up to Nas for some reason to his label, hear me out. Long before Roc Nation became an entity in 2008, 9th Wonder remixed Nas' God Son Album and Jay invited 9th Wonder to make a beat on the Black Album. Lupe Fiasco named himself after Nas' "Firm Fiasco" song and immediately got a Jay-Z cosign on his first album. In the beginning, it almost seemed like Jay-Z was doing a chess move, where he was going out his way to stretch his influence towards artists who looked up to Nas growing up. J Cole looked up to Nas and recited Nas lyrics growing up? Sign him to Roc Nation, but tell him that he could not release his album without a radio-friendly single, which spawned "Work Out", but then spawned "Let Nas Down." Jay Electronica recites Nas verses and did a Nas tribute song called "My World"? Sign him to Roc Nation and delay his debut "Act 2" album to death while scrapping it, then outrap him on his new debut album, which was more in Jay-Z's lane than Jay Electronica's lane, which was just movie score OSTs looped with no drums, compared to "A Written Testimony". Jay-Z's philosophy towards running his record label does not vibe well with Nas' prodigies, because ROC Nation instills the mentality of going platinum every album, but that gets in the way of hip hop creativity. Roc Nation's executives instills self doubt into careers like J Cole and Jay Electronica because the kryptonite of "conscious rappers" is "self doubt", unless you have enough experience to out-shake that feeling and just drop music while being creative. Roc Nation's philosophy has cross pollenated into other major record label executive's strategies as well, but this kills the creative artform. So after convincing J Cole and Jay Electronica that what they are making is not hot, Jay-Z proceeds to help you by cosigning all your features, taking your ideas and placing them on his albums first as a "beta test" (like when Jay Electronica's style is all over "Smile" and got Jay-Z rapping in Arabic on 4:44), and then outrapping you on your own song made in his lane, making you feel better, cloning his idealism into the next generation, when he's the source of self doubt in the first place. Jay-Z at this point in his career is just using younger, influential artists to prolong his longevity and relevancy in the game (similar to what Kanye and Drake does with talent under their labels...ghostwrite and produce hits for the bigger artist). All of Jay-Z's cosigns are strategic towards helping Jay-Z's relevancy in the game instead of the other way around -- and if you are signed under Roc Nation, Roc Nation's philosophy confuses/brainwashes their artists, making J Cole get fed up towards playing NBA basketball, etc, and Griselda would have been much bigger had they signed under some other label, but Roc Nation is A&R hell because their people is really good with business and strategy, but they don't allow artists to be creative and drop albums whenever they like to feed their fanbase unless it's projected to be multi-platinum (which means, no more mixtapes, just albums to rake in money for the label). Jay-Z's philosophy of going platinum every album kills creativity and kills creative people's careers in hip hop and that mentality is not sustainable...just look at Jay-Z, dude hasn't dropped an album in 4 years because he's scared it would break his platinum album streak unless he finds another samsung/sprint deal loophole. Jay-Z definitely has things to say but would rather be co-featured on a Beyonce or Jay Electronica project to let out his verses than to drop his own albums because of that unsustainable mentality that every album needs to go platinum, which kills the creative artform of taking chances in hip hop...yes, you can pretend that your standards are better by giving yourself elitist excuses by not to drop albums -- that mentality works for Jay-Z's tenure with 13 albums under his belt but does not translate well with new artists that barely started their discographies. Roc Nation's management is good for people like DJ Khaled who is established and is trying to figure out where in their contract is their label-partnership is screwing them over, but signing under Roc Nation kills new artists' rise and creativity...waiting on your label to grant you your album release date is the worst feeling when you already completed your album but they are still waiting on a more mainstream album to sell platinum.

Mass Appeal at least respected Dave East's request to make a bunch of mixtapes to cultivate his fanbase before dropping his album. Nas came in when he was needed for a co-sign feature, regardless or album or mixtape, which benefitted Dave more than Nas. Mass Appeal had a lot of artists drop projects under them and you never heard Run the Jewels complain about Mass Appeal when they moved on to a new label deal. When signing under artist-lead record labels, the lead artist running the label needs to not have an ego and cultivate their artists' careers instead of hording all the hits and relevancy for themselves. This is why TI's signed artists failed -- TI wanted all the glitz, glamor, and reputation for himself. The people who signed under Young Jeezy like Freddie Gibbs saw that Jeezy's money was tied to some shit and Jeezy failed to promote his artists properly due to the lack of funds -- 1 Million was not enough. Gucci Mane jump started a lot of producer's careers and released his artists like Migos, etc when he went to jail. Gucci Mane did most of them right, except for Waka Flocka, because the familiarity of signing extended family or friends as a favor always gets in the way of business relations.

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Ohio club cited for Covid violations after 500 people attend indoor Trey Songz concert

Posted: 08 Dec 2020 10:05 AM PST

Jack Harlow announces “Way out” Featuring Big Sean premiering and dropping tomorrow at 12 EST

Posted: 08 Dec 2020 12:53 PM PST

[FRESH VIDEO] King Von - Wayne’s Story

Posted: 08 Dec 2020 09:00 AM PST

[FRESH] Vory - VORY

Posted: 08 Dec 2020 09:16 PM PST

TOBE NWIGWE - FATHER FIGURE FT. BLACK THOUGHT + ROYCE DA 5’9”

Posted: 08 Dec 2020 06:17 PM PST

Louisiana rapper Blue Benji Kobe shot & killed in broad daylight

Posted: 08 Dec 2020 12:54 PM PST

Westside Gunn - Lucha Bros (feat Curren$y and Benny the Butcher)

Posted: 08 Dec 2020 09:44 PM PST

Method Man and Redman - Da Rockwilder

Posted: 08 Dec 2020 04:34 AM PST

17 from Toronto lmk what you think!!!

Posted: 08 Dec 2020 09:34 PM PST
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