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Daily Discussion Thread 10/08/2020 - HipHop

Daily Discussion Thread 10/08/2020 - HipHop

Daily Discussion Thread 10/08/2020

Posted: 08 Oct 2020 09:21 AM PDT

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Throwback Write-Up #22: Danny Brown - Detroit State of Mind III

Posted: 08 Oct 2020 08:25 AM PDT

Artist: Danny Brown

Album: Detroit State of Mind Pt. III

Release Date: 2009

Introduction

Danny Brown has been a big name in hip hop since his breakout album XXX in 2011. Since then he's only gotten more famous and more respected. Initially I wanted my write up to be an argument for why Danny Brown is the greatest rapper ever. However, other people with better skills at writing, and more importantly writing about music, have accomplished that. Including fellow redditors and folks on Twitter. So instead, I'd like my write up to be a very specific review of Danny Brown all the way about over a decade ago in 2009, before he blew up but during his hard grind getting to notoriety.

Background

Twenty-eight year old Danny Brown is a bit of an anomaly in hip-hop, a genre that is young in its history and dominated by younger artists. First getting into the rap game with the group Rese'vor Dogs in 2003, but has been an inspiring rapper since kindergarten according to a recent interview with Detroit Metro Times. Danny is not new to the game but it was only in the last couple of years that he's started making waves. It was only after his release from jail in 2007 that Danny felt the need to take his passion to the next level.

That same year Danny released the first in what would become the Detroit State of Mind mixtape series. And he has not let up on releasing music since. His discography is quickly becoming impressive with Detroit State of Mind III being the most recent in the series, along with a mixtape produced by fellow Detroit-native, Nick Speed, Hot Soup. And we are anticipating a fourth Detroit State of Mind mixtape along with his first studio album, The Hybrid. Danny has been grinding.

What stands out the most about Danny Brown is his allegiance to Detroit. He credits the city for influencing him the most, from the city's history of Motown, funk, and rock, to the scenery of a city abandoned.

"Brown doesn't have a home per se; rather, he crashes in three separate spots. 'I kind of live on I-94, man,' Brown cracks. He's got his studio and Xbox at his Grandma Nelly's east side house off Flanders Street. He crashes on Grandma Tina's couch on the west side off Linwood, and he hangs out at Uncle Too's house next door — the house he grew up in."

It is these influences that come out so vibrantly in his most recent mixtape, Detroit State of Mind Pt. III.

Album Review

An interesting issue I ran into while working on this write-up is how little information there is on Danny's works before The Hybrid. Searches for the Detroit State of Mind series brought up a lot of examples of people struggling to even find downloads for a couple of years, and even today the Genius page only has lyrics for 6/13 songs from the tape. And four of those are only because Danny released a few songs on this tape and on Hot Soup (Whatupdoe, Sittin' so High, Squeeze Precisely, Streets of Detroit). There were also a lot of dead pages of interviews and information that are lost even to Web Archives.

However, the music persists. Even if a lot of the extraneous context is lost, the music speaks for itself. The most outstanding aspect of Danny Brown's Detroit State of Mind series is how well he represents Detroit throughout them. When we look specifically at Danny's Musical Influences, his ability to lyrically take us to Detroit, and the representation of himself as a Detroit-native in Detroit State of Mind III, it becomes overwhelmingly clear that Danny will always put his city on his back.

Musical Influences

Detroit holds claim to birthing musical subgenres, like Motown, and being the best representation of other subgenres, like Blues and Soul. Detroit is also incredibly proud of its place in musical history, and when you look at musical acts that come from Detroit, that history is undeniable. Danny celebrates Detroit's musical history in many ways, of course by adding to the history by placing himself securely as the greatest rapper ever, but also through sampling on his songs. The best examples of this are in the songs Way it Goes and Streets of Detroit. I'll admit I'm not the most musically versed, and so the samples very likely have a greater importance than I'm giving them, but even for those like me you can hear Danny respecting those before him in his own music.

Detroit

Detroit is even more than it's contributions to music, though that is a big part of the city. Detroit is the Motor City, it's the second largest city in the Midwest, it's diverse, and it is also one of the most poignant examples of urban decay in the United States and apparently the largest US City to file for bankruptcy. It is mostly that declining, decaying city that Danny grew up in, and he reps it all the same.

"I get my influences over here," Brown says. "I just soak up the scenery and go back to the east side and write it. It's crazy. Even if I get off of Flanders Street I'll probably still go back there to write."

The most common theme in all of Danny Brown's music is how much struggling is part of life in The D. Never Say Never is one of the best examples of this on DSOM3.

Cold outside, even worse in the house, heat don't work and the lights went out.

It's impossible to not be shaped by the poverty you live through, and Danny clearly keeps that experience as a part of him. The choices of a child affect the grown man. Tried to tell it to the judge but he didn't understand. So he gave me some time but this whole situation inspired this rhyme. He makes it clear again and again in his music that there weren't many options but hustling, but he also credits the whole situation for giving him perspective and putting him where he's at now, chasing his real dream. From Way it Goes:

Staring in the mirror, hearing voices in my head,/ Saying: 'Take advantage cause you're 'posed to been dead'/ Staying on a mission for the nickels and the dimes/ Blowing on chronic while I'm peeking out the blinds

Danny

While Danny himself has mentioned that The Hybrid is where he found his voice and unique style was fleshed out the best (namely his high-pitched rapping). The beginnings of that voice and his famous punch lines are spread throughout his early mixtapes. The songs highlighted below are where it is the most pronounced and you know Danny has been wildin' all his life

Fuck bitches like AIDS don't exist/I'm a young Ruthless n\*** on some Eazy-E shit.*

What Up Doe is one of the songs that is featured on two separate mixtapes, and honestly I get it, it's a solid song and Danny is in full form on it. Smoke green like I shot a Ninja Turtle/ Matta fact popped Prince, way I smoke Purple. He's braggadocios, crude, and violent and it's exactly what you want from a Danny Brown banger. Squeeze Precisely is much the same, a classic Danny Brown banger Drop science like teenage pregnancy/ In a cutty, same color as some celery. He's got silly punch lines and great rhymes throughout. One of my favorite things Danny does consistently is tell you why he's better than you Spent a hundred on a collar bone/ Danny Brown got white like Styrofoam/ The only you thing you running is your legs/ Got gan by the boat, why you blowing on regs?

Another common theme in Danny Brown's music is how well he mixes flexing with the desperation of Detroit Cutty same color as a dirty fish aquarium. And all of these different aspects of his personality are so heavily tied to his city and his upbringing

"It's a real Fred Sanford situation at Too's," Brown says with a smile. His uncle pays the bills scrapping metal, which covers the kitchen floor. An open stove provides the heat. It's definitely real in Brown's neighborhoods. (And kicking it in Uncle Too's living room with friends and family is also real fun.)

And Danny does it all so authentically and ostentatiously that it makes you respect him even more.

Questions

  • Do you go back to pre-XXX Danny Brown albums? Which ones?
  • What do you think of Danny's progress as an artist between his Detroit State of Mind series, to XXX, to Uknowwhatimsayin¿
  • Does anyone know why Danny released four of his songs on this and on Hot Soup? I tweeted at him and he didn't get back to me. Both are mixtapes, but Hot Soup can be found on streaming since he re-released it.
  • Where do you think Danny Brown lands on the scale of best rappers. And I mean specifically just his rapping ability, not him as an artist or even musician, just pure rapping ability.
  • Where do you think he rates as a musician? His most outstanding skill is his rapping but he's got a great ability to structure albums into impressive, cohesive projects.

Sources

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Tory Lanez Charged With Assault in Megan Thee Stallion Shooting

Posted: 08 Oct 2020 02:59 PM PDT

OutKast announce 20th Anniversary Stankonia reissue with previously unreleased remixes

Posted: 08 Oct 2020 07:14 AM PDT

[FRESH ALBUM] REASON - New Beginnings

Posted: 08 Oct 2020 08:59 PM PDT

Apple

Spotify

Tracklist

  1. Something More
  2. Stories I Forgot
  3. Pop Shit ft. ScHoolboy Q
  4. Show Stop
  5. Favorite Nigga
  6. I Can Make It ft. Rapsody
  7. Fall
  8. Slow Down ft. Alemeda
  9. Flick It Up ft. Ab-Soul
  10. Sauce ft. Vince Staples
  11. Extinct ft. Isaiah Rashad & JID
  12. Westside ft. Mereba
  13. Gossip
  14. Windows Cry
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[FRESH] Reason - Extinct (Feat. Isaiah Rashad & JID)

Posted: 08 Oct 2020 09:04 PM PDT

[FRESH] SAINt JHN - Gorgeous

Posted: 08 Oct 2020 09:00 PM PDT

[FRESH] Benny the Butcher -Timeless (ft. Lil Wayne and Big Sean

Posted: 08 Oct 2020 09:02 PM PDT

Black Thought Announces “Streams of Thought Vol. 3” To Be Released on October 16th

Posted: 08 Oct 2020 03:42 PM PDT

[FRESH ALBUM] Terrace Martin, Kamasi Washington, Robert Glasper, 9th Wonder - Dinner Party: Dessert

Posted: 08 Oct 2020 09:01 PM PDT

hey baby it's your mom's favorite rapper yung gravy back for AMA round 2

Posted: 08 Oct 2020 10:59 AM PDT

What's good baby, Gravy here once again. Chain still fake, neck greener than ever. Did about 60 shows in the US and EU since the last AMA and made an album. Hope all yall have been doing sensational. Hit me with all your queries.

Proof: https://i.redd.it/2jwu7nu69dp51.jpg

Link to my first AMA: https://www.reddit.com/r/Music/comments/bx7gy6/i_am_yung_gravy_dusty_soundcloud_rapper_from/eq437jy/

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[FRESH ALBUM] Headie One - EDNA

Posted: 08 Oct 2020 03:59 PM PDT

Links:

Tracklist:

  1. Teach Me
  2. Psalm 35
  3. Bumpy Ride (feat. M Huncho)
  4. Triple Science
  5. The Light
  6. Ain't It Different (feat. AJ Tracey & Stormzy)
  7. Mainstream
  8. Princess Cuts (feat. Young T & Bugsey)
  9. 21 Gun Salute (feat. Young Adz)
  10. Five Figures
  11. Hear No Evil (feat. Future)
  12. Breathing
  13. Only You Freestyle (feat. Drake)
  14. Try Me (feat. Skepta)
  15. F U Pay Me (feat. Ivorian Doll)
  16. Parlez-Vous Anglais (feat. Aitch)
  17. Everything Nice (feat. Haile)
  18. You / Me (feat. Mahalia)
  19. Therapy
  20. Cold (feat. Kaash Paige)
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[FRESH] Denzel Curry - Live From The Abyss

Posted: 08 Oct 2020 09:00 PM PDT

[FRESH] King Von - I Am What I Am ft. Fivio Foreign

Posted: 08 Oct 2020 09:02 PM PDT

[FRESH] Benny The Butcher feat. Lil Wayne & Big Sean – Timeless

Posted: 08 Oct 2020 10:34 AM PDT

[FRESH ALBUM] Famous Dex - Diana

Posted: 08 Oct 2020 09:06 PM PDT

First four episodes of Lupe and Royce's podcast are out now !

Posted: 08 Oct 2020 11:22 AM PDT

Link of the website

Episode length varies from 24 minutes to almost an hour so far.

Thoughts?

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[FRESH] Lil Tracy - Designer Talk (Ft. Lil Keed)

Posted: 08 Oct 2020 09:03 PM PDT

[FRESH ALBUM] bbno$ - good luck have fun

Posted: 08 Oct 2020 09:09 PM PDT

[FRESH] A$AP Twelvyy - Powerpuff Girls

Posted: 08 Oct 2020 09:05 PM PDT

Best rap verse on a pop track?

Posted: 08 Oct 2020 08:29 AM PDT

It seems like every rapper this decade has jumped on a pop song. What are some highlights (and lowlights).

Kendrick's version of Bad Blood w/ Taylor Swift has been a highlight for me (with his Maroon 5 verse being a lowlight)

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[FRESH ALBUM] Rittz - Picture Perfect

Posted: 08 Oct 2020 09:04 PM PDT

[FRESH VIDEO] Anderson .Paak - JEWELZ

Posted: 08 Oct 2020 08:21 AM PDT

[FRESH VIDEO] YG - Jealous (Official Music Video)

Posted: 08 Oct 2020 09:05 AM PDT

[FRESH] Headie One Ft. Young T & Bugsey - Princess cuts

Posted: 08 Oct 2020 01:17 PM PDT

[FRESH ALBUM] Lil Loaded - A Demon In 6lue

Posted: 08 Oct 2020 09:03 PM PDT
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