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Sunday General Discussion - January 24th, 2021 - HipHop

Sunday General Discussion - January 24th, 2021 - HipHop

Sunday General Discussion - January 24th, 2021

Posted: 24 Jan 2021 08:07 AM PST

thoughts on the fight? brs kash? joe biden? smack volume 7?

Album of the Year #30: Boldy James & Sterling Toles - Manger On McNichols

Smooth Sunday. Post your smooth tracks here

/u/im_stuck_pls_help was wonderin What are some songs or artists that you listened to before they blew up?

Doesn't matter if they became famous or stayed underground after they blew up

/u/Jackie2Slaps was looking for Album suggestions?

So I'm looking to expand my horizons with hip hop. I wouldn't call myself a connoisseur or anything but I'm a pretty big fan. I figured I'd come to the experts (you guys) for some places to start. For reference some of my favorite artists are Mos Def (solo and Blackstar), Tupac, De La Soul, J Cole and DMX. I also really like a lot of Memphis rap (Three Six, Playa Fly, Lil Wyte, Frayser Boy), but I'm probably biased seeing as how I lived in Memphis for a good amount of time. Not an extensive list but there it is. I'd appreciate any suggestions. Thanks.

/u/magischerzwerg is making a birthday video for my friend and they need your help.

Hey there hip hop people! It's my friend Lukas' birthday who is an old school hip-hop lover and I'm trying to make a video collage for him with people wishing him happy birthday and playing/singinf their favorite piece. This will be shown to him and possibly some of my colleagues only and I'd like to include your name/handle on the video. This would be a huge thing for me and I'd appreciate if you'd like to contribute. If yes, just shoot a few seconds of you jamming and wishing him a birthday, it's completely up to you and include your name/handle/band along with it. I appreciate all your help and thank you so much in advance.

Feel free to send your shots/videos to my twitter magischerzwerg or I can pm you my email

/u/prettyboylamar wants you to Suggest him some really lyrical preferably new school rappers with good flows

I've always been a fan of old school artists/groups like Wu Tang, Gang Starr, Biggie, Tupac, Mobb Deep, Common, Big L and the GOAT Nas and a few new ones like Kendrick and Eminem and although I'm aware most modern rap is trash I'm sure there are a few poets that i don't wanna miss out on. I'm cool with every genre or theme... It could be philosophical like Common or violent like Mobb Deep or relaxed and stylish like Biggie or a mix of em all like Nas, but there has to be bars. There has to be Poetry... Also feel free to throw in some old school ones that i may not have mentioned here. Thank you.

/u/absolutbad was wonderin Thoughts on Harry Mack

So, I showed my friends some of Harry Mack's freestyles yesterday and they were adamant that his videos were scripted and not genuine. Like he hired actors to throw him out words at the correct time. What do you guys think about him? Do you think he is legit? Or are these scripted videos with high level actors who are all in on it? I honesly don't see that being the case.

/u/danielsan1701 asks "The best posse track since "1 Train" is _________"

I'm an old head and 1 Train put me on to some of the best rappers of a whole generation. That track is 8 years old now... What track has a ton of the current generation's best rappers? Bonus points if it's boom bap :)

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Smooth Sunday. Post your smooth tracks here

Posted: 24 Jan 2021 08:03 AM PST

Let's keep it simple. Post your smooth tracks here

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The Alchemist is dropping an 8-track instrumental tape called dropping Carry the Fire on January 28th

Posted: 24 Jan 2021 02:59 PM PST

Album of the Year #30: Boldy James & Sterling Toles - Manger On McNichols

Posted: 24 Jan 2021 10:00 AM PST

Album of the Year #?: Boldy James & Sterling Toles - Manger On McNichols

Artist: Boldy James, Sterling Toles

Album: Manger on McNichols

Date Released: July 24, 2020

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Artist Background

Boldy James, born James Clay Jones III, is a product of his hometown of Detroit, MI, through and through. James has been releasing music for years, with a number of appearances on mixtapes and tracks with other artists dating back to 2009, before releasing his debut mixtape, Trappers Alley Pros and Cons, in 2011, followed by his debut album My 1st Chemistry Set, entirely produced by The Alchemist, in 2013. The record touted features from Action Bronson, Earl Sweatshirt, Vince Staples, and more. Yet, the acknowledgement that Boldy's rise in the public eye came about in 2020 seems inescapable, and for good reason; Boldly's output and growth in 2020 was close to unrivaled. His full-length collaboration with The Alchemist, The Price of Tea In China, turned heads earlier this year and highlighted James' abilities as a wordsmith. Boldy also linked up with Griselda this year, and released The Versace Tape, a short, if less notable, project produced by Jay Versace. Finally, Boldy's (underrated) collaboration with producer Real Bad Man, Real Bad Boldy, released at the end of the year, with a short but sweet collection of gritty tracks that don't overstay their welcome.

However, the real highlight of Boldy's year was, of course, his work with Sterling Toles. To be clear, to attribute this record to this year alone is perhaps disingenuous; the two's collaborative project was well over the decade in the making, with some of Boldy's vocals dating back to 2007. Toles, another Detroit native, is a musician, visual artist, and producer, blends avant-garde, jazz, experimentation, and a number of other influences on Manger on McNichols to create a soundscape that is both chaotic, gorgeous, and stirring. The pair's work finally graced the ears of the public this year, and the result is one of the most affecting and personal albums in years.

The Middle of Next Month

The most immediately arresting aspect of this record is almost certainly the aforementioned soundscape. Each track sounds meticulously crafted, chaotic but pieced together in the most precise of manners. Tracks like "The Middle of Next Month" feature an explosion of noise, from warped vocals and samples to what sounds like disconcerting strings hiding in the mix. To listen to any individual track can become an exercise in instrument recognition; a trumpet there, synthesizers and piano, and percussion that acts as less of a foundation and more of a puzzle piece. Songs like highlight "Mommy Dearest (A Eulogy)" border on the avant-garde, sounding almost structure-less, yet feeling coherent and precise; a droning violin complimented by a gorgeous flowing flute fluttering throughout the mix, dodging from left to right, choir-like backing vocals and balladry in a foreign language. The weight of these elements is enough to crush any single track, and a lesser MC would perhaps struggle to sound even close to in their element. But the strength of Boldy's voice peers straight through any amount of noise, and each track sounds like it was constructed around each verse, as it likely was. If anything can sound like the culmination of ten to thirteen years of perfection, it's this. Sterling Toles' work on this record is, not to put it lightly, unlike anything heard on a rap record, ever. The soundscape of the record is both dirty and gorgeous, muddy and boundary-pushing, with Boldy's voice cutting through the chaos like a knife.

A Eulogy

But perhaps just as impressive as the sound of the record is the content, both personal and strikingly complex. Boldy's poetic and yet almost domestic storytelling is powerful and matter-of-fact, with his dreary delivery standing proud among the instrumentation and perfectly complementing it. The descriptions of poverty, crime, and interpersonal relationships is powerfully dreadful; often, the naming of family and friends in an almost list-like fashion very clearly remind you that these are lived experiences. A number of recurring themes permeate the record, with one of the most potent being that of childhood, and by extension, parenting and Boldy's own children. Even the title, with the use of the word "manger" brings to mind the visuals of a nativity scene, highlighting the birth of Jesus in a manger or stable, further emblematic of the record's focus on birth, childhood, and religion. Descriptions of parentless youth, such as on "Requiem", paint a vivid and perhaps all too common picture:

My youngin' lost his mother and father, was less fortunate

Put up for adoption, no foster parents at the orphanage

The social worker, she could give a fuck, she got her own problems

Brodie wanted for a open murder, that's his role model

Growin' up all he seen was a Seagram's Crown Royal bottle

Pourin' up his troubles, gettin' weeded while he load hollow tips

And that extendo roll was runnin' through them bundles

One time, the bag came up short, he had to shoot his uncle

Perhaps the most affecting moment on the record comes in the form of the "Mommy Dearest (A Eulogy)", which features Boldy interpolating Notorious B.I.G's "Suicidal Thoughts" ('Cause she don't even love me like she did when I was younger/ Suckin' on her breast just to stop my fuckin' hunger). The track seems to highlight both Boldy's childhood trauma and relationship with his mother (and by extension a younger sibling and father) and perhaps even his own thoughts on parenthood as well as his own past and life trajectory, talking about a history of crime and selling drugs, culminating in the piercing line: I know my mama wish she got a fuckin' abortion. The poetry and searing emotional weight of this track is not only multi-layered and dense, but is of course accompanied by not only the gorgeous instrumentation but a sample of an interview discussing the song in question. Falling right in the middle of the album, "Mommy Dearest" acts almost as an emotional climax, and is what Sterling Toles has cited as the centerpiece of the project, highlighting Boldy's relationship with his mother, some of the darkest thoughts James has to offer on the record and some of the most introspective.

Askin' our mommy, "Where Daddy went?"

To our daddy, "Where Mommy at?"

Him tellin' me she ain't comin' back

Me lookin' at my four-year-old sister

Tears runnin' down her poor little dimples, damn

Memories when it was hard for your little mans

Can it be that it was all so simple then?

Tellin' me that you was on your way to come see me

And left me sittin' on the porch in the rain, freezing

Had me feelin' like an orphan, the pain stingin'

And gettin' stung by a hornet ain't the same, neither

It run further and way deeper than a heartbreakin' mind-bogglin' brain freezer

Tellin' James that what I'm never sellin' dope

And when he said "never", that's when he let me know

To never say "never", because you never know

And if you love someone, let 'em know

Guess it wasn't meant

While growing up in Detroit, James had a friend in his neighborhood who went by the name Boldy, who "didn't rap, he just sold cocaine." James "Boldy" Osley was later murdered, and, since they shared the name, James, Jones decided to carry on the name in his rap career. The DNA of Detroit and its influence on both Boldy himself and his sound is evident throughout the record, with a number of samples throughout the record starting and ending tracks with messages about Detroit, a number of which sound like they come from old television or radio samples. That spirit and heritage feels laced throughout the record. Boldy's style and wordplay is not only impressive across the record, but feels unique to him and his experiences. The storytelling and descriptions on the album feel almost intrusive, like a man has opened his soul entirely, describing his insecurities, trauma, and confessing his sins over the sound of raw emotion, unfiltered. The closing moments of this record on "Got Flicked (The Rebirth)" feel like an encapsulation of paranoia and dwelling on the past, coming to terms with life as it has been given and lost in thought about what it means.

My baby mama and my son didn't show up

When I realized I ain't tell 'em I was leaving when the bailiff threw me in the cuffs, fuck

Then he whispered in my ear, "This, too, shall pass"

Now I'm shackled by my frame to the floor of a bus with some strangers

Cliqued up with some demons, got into it with some lifers

Learned to communicate with angels

It's not often an album of this level arrives. A project so long in the making, so intently focused, and so painfully personal that it feels intrusive. The depth of the project's sounds and poetry is impossible to digest upon dozens of listens, nevermind the first. The story behind the record is almost as fascinating as its content, and despite the love it has gotten from certain circles and online forums, it still feels like a record that should have made far larger a splash than it has. That being said, the staying power of this record will likely prove itself in the years to come, especially as Boldy James continues his exponential growth. This is without a doubt one of the most powerful hip-hop records in years, and one that will go down as a landmark achievement, blending new and old with startling ease, and emblematic of the sort of personal expression and raw introspection most key to the human experience.

Highlights

I just lost my two twins in an accident

Would've been my firstborn kids, guess it wasn't meant

It's been a series of unfortunate events

And I'm gettin' real leery of whom I call my friends

- "The Middle of Next Month"

Sometimes I feel like a motherless child

Get out of line, and I'm gunnin' you down, so stay in single file

'Fore you in the line of fire, tryna renege

Like you threw a nine of diamonds out when I led with spades

And you sittin' trump tight

We got hand grenades, I pull this pin, it's goodnight

Sleep tight, don't let the bedbugs bite

Keep a razor blade or jagged-edge butcher knife

-"Mommy Dearest (A Eulogy)"

Therapeutic to the user, the heroin abusers

Know I'm a ConCreature like I'm starin' at Medusa

-"Medusa"

Got the drug-free school zone high

God, tell the devil Boldy want a spot if I gotta suffer

Got some 1-2, 3-4, 5-slot, heavy metal pokin' out my side for you motherfuckin' sissies

Your boy an assassin, my city ain't no tourist attraction, this Detroit where shit happens

Cats get shot in their jibs

Extorted, kidnapped, or robbed for their yen

My ConCreature fam been known for causin' casualties

Don't eff with them boys off of McNichols

But come back to Detroit, sorry we missed you

With this northern hospitality

You welcome to 76

-"Welcome to 76"

It's six million ways to die to choose from

Hardest thing to do is stay alive, go to school son

I know niggas who died when they was too young

To even realize, don't even think twice, just shoot guns

And let the trigger decide, took a few slugs

Blink twice, bleedin' from his eyes, cried blue blood

When they crimsoned his tide in new ones

Left him laid out flat in some already-been-chewed gum

-"Why Are You In Her(e)?"

It's real life shit, this ain't Hansel & Gretel

In my kitchen, Pyrex right next to the kettle

Open the cabinet, farina right next to the pet milk

With my strap on, the sink full of dishes and residue

Phone tapped, I think, and my minutes is hella low

Who in the hell'd think that that kid'd be sellin' dope?

From petty thief, misdemeanors to federal

Seventeen in the clink for some weed in my leather coat

-"Got Flicked (The Rebirth)"

Discussion Questions

-Where does this stand in Boldy's discography? Were you familiar with Boldy and his work prior to his releases this year? If so, how has that affected your perception of this record?

-The jazz-driven soundscape of this record has been compared to records such as To Pimp A Butterfly. While the subject matter is entirely different, how does the sound of these records compare? Considering how unique this project is, is this a fair comparison?

-Lyrical highlights that I missed?

Lastly: here is a fascinating documentary/series of interviews with Boldy and Sterling Toles that I highly recommend for anyone interested

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Fredo reveals tracklist for 'Money Can't Buy Happiness', dropping 1/29

Posted: 24 Jan 2021 01:22 PM PST

TRACKLIST:

  1. Biggest Mistake
  2. Back to Basics
  3. Sphagetti
  4. Ready (feat. Summer Walker)
  5. Money Talks (feat. Dave)
  6. Do You Right
  7. Burner on Deck (feat. Pop Smoke & Young Adz)
  8. I Miss
  9. Blood in my Eyes
  10. Aunts Place
  11. What Can I Say

Via Instagram

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[DISCUSSION] J Hus - Big Conspiracy (One Year Later)

Posted: 24 Jan 2021 08:15 AM PST

Big Conspiracy is the second studio album by British rapper J Hus. It was released on 24 January 2020 by Black Butter Records/Sony Music Uk for streaming and digital download. The album features production from frequent collaborator Jae5, alongside IO, TSB and Nana Rogues, plus guest appearances from Iceè TGM, Koffee, Burna Boy and Ella Mai. It follows the 2017 debut album, Common Sense, and the 2018 EP Big Spang.

Two singles were released to promote the album: "Must Be" and "No Denying", both charting in the top 40 of the UK Singles Chart. The album debuted atop the UK Albums Chart, becoming J Hus' first UK number-one album. It also charted in Belgium, Canada, the Netherlands, Ireland, Norway and Sweden. Big Conspiracy received widespread acclaim from critics.

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Moor Mother & Billy Woods - Rapunzal

Posted: 24 Jan 2021 06:16 PM PST

J Dilla - Sunbeams

Posted: 24 Jan 2021 03:30 PM PST

[DISCUSSION] Soulection (Label, Radio Show, etc.) turns 10-years old today.

Posted: 24 Jan 2021 10:21 AM PST

Since 2011, Soulection has been a cornerstone of creativity for innovative musicians, crate-digging DJs, and open-minded fans from across the world. What began as an independent radio show has since blossomed into a global community of artists and audiences, united in a borderless, genre-bending, musical movement. Over the past nine years, their grassroots expansion is a model of what happens when one stays true to their roots in the constantly evolving digital age of music. From putting out independent releases with producers like Ta-ku, Sango, Dpat, and Atu on Bandcamp to being the first collective invited to play Coachella, Soulection's growth has been organic and fruitful. Today, Soulection exists as a Beats 1 radio show, an independent music label, festival (Soulection Experience), world-touring concert and clothing line.

In case people aren't familiar with Soulection, they (and Joe Kay especially) are partly responsibly for the come-up of amazing artists like Kaytranada/Goldlink/Sango/Monte Booker/Smino/etc. They've always pushed forward with the music they present (seen by these artists) and are just overall an amazing project.
Some questions:
- 10 years later, do you believe Soulection has achieved its potential?
- Where do you think they'll go next in this decade, or will they maintain its current popularity?
- What are your favorite Soulection artists/projects throughout the years
- Favorite Soulection radio show?
- Do you believe Soulection has utilized the internet to its advantage?
- Where do you rank Soulection as your favorite labels (if that's a thing lmao)?

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Jayz, Eminem - Home tour (Yankee stadium) ft. 50 cent, kanye west, nicki minaj, beyonce

Posted: 24 Jan 2021 10:24 AM PST

Aries (YuGo) Part 2 - Mike WiLL Made-it with Rae Sremmurd & Big Sean feat. Quavo & Pharrell

Posted: 24 Jan 2021 05:56 PM PST

DMX & The Ruff Ryders Reminisce On Rough Road To Success – Ruff Ryders Chronicles Full Ep 1 (youtube.com)

Posted: 24 Jan 2021 04:32 PM PST

[DISCUSSION] Oh No & Madlib - The Professionals (One Year Later)

Posted: 24 Jan 2021 09:24 AM PST

The Professionals is the eponymous debut collaborative studio album by The Professionals, an American duo consisting of sibling producers/rappers Madlib and Oh No. Entirely produced by Madlib, with raps mainly being provided by Oh No, the album was released on January 17, 2020, on Madlib's own imprint Madlib Invazion. The album features guest appearances from Adub, Elzhi, Chino XL, Freddie Gibbs, The Alchemist, and members of the Crate Diggas Palace collective (Wildchild, Roc C, MED and Kazi).

RYM review:

It's not unlike any West Coast hip hop we heard throughout last decade, though I don't think it's supposed to be; the album presents as an off the cuff and indulgent project by the two brothers, somewhat haphazardly thrown together yet gelling successfully thanks to their talent. I wouldn't be surprised if we don't see another record under this moniker, but for now it's a fun slice of West Coast and an early throwback to the 2010's.

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[FRESH VIDEO] M Huncho - Overpriced(Freestyle)

Posted: 24 Jan 2021 01:09 PM PST

Mac Miller - Days

Posted: 24 Jan 2021 01:46 PM PST

[FRESH] Lil Wayne - Ain’t Got Time

Posted: 24 Jan 2021 08:15 PM PST

YuYu Hakusho Chill Soul Jam

Posted: 24 Jan 2021 05:26 PM PST

Missing my favorite rapper especially on these late nights so I made a lil video for a lesser known song of his. RIP MF. Greatest to ever do it. Stay blessed out there yall....

Posted: 24 Jan 2021 11:09 PM PST

[ORIGINAL] C./FORTE - Don't Trip. I posted the trailer and single to this EP on HHH and got lots of love. Here's the EP. My best friend and I were making an LP that got delayed due to COVID, and so we went DIY and made this EP. HHH has been a huge part of my life, excited to share this!

Posted: 24 Jan 2021 07:07 PM PST

Listen to the EP on Spotify, Apple, or Amazon.

My friend and I have been making music together for a few years, but haven't released anything in a while. When our LP got delayed, we didn't want to wait anymore, so we made a DIY EP with the help of a friend who's an engineer. It's not a perfect project but we put 100% of our hearts into it and are excited to share it with ya'll.

If you wanna follow us on social media, you can find our info in corner of that page. Hope you enjoy!

EDIT: Updated links to individual streaming services because my hyperurl was being weird. Yikes.

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[FRESH VIDEO] G YAMAZAWA - Riddle Me This

Posted: 24 Jan 2021 12:38 PM PST

Domies 도우미 - Dumbfoundead(feat. Keith Ape, Okasian)

Posted: 24 Jan 2021 09:20 PM PST

Madvillain - Papermill (in my opinion the most underrated Madvillain song)

Posted: 24 Jan 2021 08:03 AM PST

[FRESH VIDEO] Drakeo The Ruler - Captions

Posted: 24 Jan 2021 04:29 PM PST
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