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Sunday General Discussion - April 19th, 2020 - HipHop

Sunday General Discussion - April 19th, 2020 - HipHop

Sunday General Discussion - April 19th, 2020

Posted: 19 Apr 2020 08:26 AM PDT

Fiona Apple going dolphin mode on the first track of her album was incredible shoutout to all my dolphins

I can't believe they're finally gonna explore Michael Jordan's life as a catgirl in this documentary, glad he's finally comfortable enough to live his truth

Good luck on the stalk market this week

don't forget we've got a crazy week of AMAs upcoming with

Westside Gunn AMA planned for 04/21 at 1pm ET

Shabazz Palaces AMA planned for 04/23

secret unannounced legend AMA planned for 04/23

Cam O'bi AMA planned for 04/28

Please get some good questions ready you god damn jabronis

Choose your fighter:

https://youtu.be/GkUiAg9yrIo

https://youtu.be/47n2YaqQUIc

https://youtu.be/Kp7Tqw3gi5Y

https://youtu.be/aa2WfP_nx6o

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[FRESH ALBUM] Mike Dean - 4:20

Posted: 19 Apr 2020 08:59 PM PDT

Apple Music | Spotify | Tidal

TRACKS 1-10: THE FIFTH DAY

TRACK 11: THE SIXTH OR SEVENTH DAY

TRACKS 12-15: THE EIGHTH DAY

TRACKS 16-17: THE EIGHTH NIGHT

TRACKS 18-23: THE NINTH DAY

TRACK 24: THE TENTH OR ELEVENTH DAY

TRACKS 25-28: THE TWELFTH DAY

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[FRESH ALBUM] Wiz Khalifa - The Saga of Wiz Khalifa

Posted: 19 Apr 2020 09:02 PM PDT

Dr. Dre's classic 1992 album has arrived on Spotify

Posted: 19 Apr 2020 10:00 PM PDT

[4/20] Kid Cudi - Just What I Am ft. King Chip

Posted: 19 Apr 2020 09:27 PM PDT

Blueface Hosts Coronavirus Unsafe Stripper Party That Turns Into a Brawl

Posted: 19 Apr 2020 08:24 AM PDT

[Fresh] Ab-Soul - Dangerookipawa Freestyle

Posted: 19 Apr 2020 09:53 PM PDT

Joe Budden calls Freddie Gibbs on IG Live and Drake hops in the chat

Posted: 19 Apr 2020 04:17 PM PDT

26 years on - Why Nas' debut album Illmatic is still the greatest hip-hop album of all time.

Posted: 19 Apr 2020 05:48 PM PDT

TLDR:

Illmatic is a greatest album in hip-hop because of the benchmark it set and the influence it caused in the genre. There is a unique sense of genuineness, originality and unbridled honesty that Nas captures on this project – "My approach was to talk about that kid on the corner… that kid wasn't on stage, I wanted the stage to come to him on the block"and that's exactly what he was able to achieve – it was just a young kid given the rare opportunity to share his experiences and tell his story. To think that this was the debut album for a mere 20-year-old from Queensbridge, New York who was an eighth-grade high school dropout is completely mind boggling. If you haven't listened to this album yet, do yourself a favor and give it a listen, it's only 40 minutes in length.

Nas's Career Before Illmatic:

In 1991, Nas made his debut at the tender age of 18 on Main Source's track "Live At The Barbeque" thanks to his close relationship with one of the group members, Large Professor. Nas is clearly the standout artist on this track and his verse, specifically the line: "When I was 12, I went to Hell for snuffin' Jesus" put him on the radar within New York.

MC Serch who would eventually become Nas's manager and executive producer on Illmatic recounts "It was one of the illest lines anyone had ever heard an MC say… It almost felt like within a week, everybody wanted to know who that guy was." Additionally, Faith Newman, an A&R at Columbia Records describes "Nas said the line 'When I was 12, I went to hell for snuffin' Jesus' and I said 'Who is this guy? This is crazy.' I went on a mission to try to find him." Both MC Serch and Faith Newman would play pivotal roles in securing Nas's first record deal with Columbia records towards the end of 1991. There is some conflicting information from both MC Serch and Faith with when Nas was signed, Faith claims that it was at the end of 1991 right as she started her new position at Columbia whereas Serch claims he was signed in 1992 after he introduced Nas to Faith.

Regardless of the fact, with the help from MC Serch, Nas featured on two more of projects that Serch was heavily involved in. The first being; "Back To The Grille Again" on Serch's first and only solo album "Return of the Product" and the latter was the original movie soundtrack Zebrahead with the song "Halftime". Halftime would later become a single for Illmatic. These two projects along with "Live At The Barbeque" had garnered hype around Nas and Faith describes "People were asking about him… You felt it on the streets. People talked about it, people asked about him, people wrote about him…" New York was not mistaken to be hyped about this young artist, but they had no idea he would drop one of the most revolutionary albums in hip-hop.

Lyricism on Illmatic

Nas as an artist has been influenced by several pioneers of the genre, such as Big Daddy Kane, Kool G Rap and Rakim. These are some of the artists who began evolving lyricism from a basic and simplistic style of rhyming to intricate and poetic format. Here are a few examples of Nas's use of multi-syllabic internal rhymes:

"Nas, I analyse, drop the kew-el, inhale from the L

School a fool well, you feel it like braille

It Ain't Hard To Tell"

  • It Ain't Hard To Tell, Verse Two

"Wisdom be leakin' out my grapefruit, troop

I dominate break loops, givin' mics men-e-strual cycles,

Street's disciples, I rock beats that's mega trifle"

  • It Aint Hard To Tell, Verse Three

"A two-day stay, you may say, I need the time alone

To relax my dome, no phone, left my nine at home"

  • One Love, Verse Three

"'Cause I'm an ace when I face the base,

40-Side is the place that is giving me grace"

  • Halftime, Verse Two

Illmatic – The first "Super Producer Album"

Illmatic was the first album in hip-hop to be a true example of a "super producer album", a project which several high-profile producers on it. Large Professor from Main Source, DJ Premier from Gang Starr, Q-Tip from A Tribe Called Quest and Pete Rock from Pete Rock & C.L. Smooth were the four producers on this album who already had successful and well-established careers within the industry. Nas's idea of having reputable producers on his debut album turned out to be a great one, mainly because each of the producers were getting competitive with one another. DJ Premier recalls being around Pete Rock and Large Professor when they were recording, scratching, or beat mixing and hearing their work motivated him to better his own. Premier even goes as far to say that when he heard "The World Is Yours" that made him change his final cut of Represent, which was the first song that Premier recorded with Nas. Additionally, even Q-Tip was victim to this, he remembers when he heard DJ Premier's original beat for "Memory Lane" and thinking "Oh, shit! And I heard Paul's (Large Professor's) shit, so then I was like 'I gotta give this dude some shit.'"

Victim Of Bootlegging

26 years on, many people may not actually know that Illmatic fell victim to excessive bootlegging, a phenomenon that at the time had only recently surfaced. Faith Newman recounts that "And everybody had it – all over the world, even. By February of '94, it was just done, and we had to pull the trigger. Just like, we gotta go. We got nine songs — nine and the intro." Demand within New York had grown so large, that MC Serch claimed he found a garage with 60,000 bootlegged copies. In Illmatic's opening week, it only sold 59,000 copies which is astonishing considering the hype in the leadup to the album and that it was also critically acclaimed, it was the first solo debut album to be awarded 5 mics by The Source. It would take Illmatic almost a further two years to be awarded Gold certification and over seven years for Platinum certification. As of this year, 2019, it has been certified as a Double-Platinum album.

In hindsight, perhaps the rushed release worked in Nas's favour because the resulting product was a 40-minute length album with nine phenomenal songs and absolutely NO filler. The short length and lack of filler has maintained Illmatic's replayability for 25 years and will continue for many years to come.

Illmatic's Influence On Other Artists And The Genre Itself

Throughout hip-hop, countless examples of inspiration, influence and sampling can be found from Illmatic. Perhaps one of the most recognizable was Jay-Z's renown track "Dead Presidents" which used a direct sample from "The World Is Yours (Q-Tip's Remix)" which was released on the B-side of the same single.

Perhaps a more subtle sample from the album was one of Nas's spoken phrases in the introduction of "Life's A Bitch" – "Clothes, bankrolls, and hoes" which would later be referenced by many other artists notably by Notorious B.I.G. to say "money clothes and hoes, all a nigga knows". Biggie was later called out by Raekwon The Chef and Ghostface Killah from The Wu-Tan Clan on Raekwon's track "Shark Niggas" this would devolve into a beef with songs containing subliminal lines between the mentioned artists.

Illmatic also influenced album art covers in hip-hop, with Nas's childhood photo on the cover of the album many other artists have released inspired album covers such as Notorious B.I.G. – Ready To Die, Lil Wayne – Tha Carter III and The Game – The Documentary (special edition cover).

Many artists have praised Nas and Illmatic for setting a standard of what hip-hop should be:

Common: "That whole Illmatic album, that's like my favourite album in hip-hop."

Ludacris: "I heard Illmatic for the first time, I remember being in high school and I just remember it being, if not, the most complete album, hip-hop wise I felt like I ever heard. You know, its one of those albums you can listen to from beginning all the way to the end without stopping it or passing through any song."

Ghostface Killah: "When I used to listen to Nas back in the days, it was like "Oh, Shit! He murdered that!" That forced me to get my pen game up and like "How can I try to catch it how this nigga catchin' it?" The whole Illmatic album forced you to go ahead and do shit."

Pharrel: "Illmatic is one of those transformative moments in hip-hop."

Busta Rhymes: "What he was able to do lyrically completely shifted the climate of how the MC was supposed to rhyme."

J-Cole: "In 1994, I was 9 years old. I came up in Fayetteville, North Carolina so a lot of things didn't make it to me, he hit us with life lessons and insight on how to maneuver through this world as just a young black man in America."

Kendrick Lamar: "Illmatic's the album from the 90's era where I was growing up, the stories he was telling was something I could relate to. Illmatic will always be number one." Also "You can hear the influence of my music. You can hear the influence of my story telling." Lastly, Kendrick also gave Nas – Illmatic among other hip-hop icons a shoutout at his acceptance speech for winning best rap album for To Pimp A Butterfly.

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Fort Minor - Remember The Name

Posted: 19 Apr 2020 04:50 AM PDT

Jailed rapper YNW Melly given Gatorade to treat coronavirus

Posted: 19 Apr 2020 07:21 PM PDT

[FRESH VIDEO] Desiigner — Survivor

Posted: 19 Apr 2020 06:19 PM PDT

[FRESH] Flight - Disingenuous

Posted: 19 Apr 2020 09:03 PM PDT

Lupe Fiasco - Never Forget You (feat. John Legend)

Posted: 19 Apr 2020 12:53 PM PDT

[FRESH] Wiz Khalifa - High Today (feat. Logic)

Posted: 19 Apr 2020 09:43 PM PDT

[FRESH] Shoreline Mafia - Gangstas & Sippas (feat. Q Da Fool)

Posted: 19 Apr 2020 09:08 PM PDT

It appears that Netflix may have copied some artwork from IDK

Posted: 19 Apr 2020 11:41 AM PDT

The artwork for Netflix's new show 'The Innocence Files' is eerily similar to the artwork for IDK's 'IWASVERYBAD' album.

IDK's Twitter post about it

IDK's Instagram post about it

IDK's album cover | Netflix artwork

Here's a more indepth twitter thread if you want to read more

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Am curious to hear other's thoughts on this. I am having some trouble finding the artwork for the netflix show outside of twitter (the one in question), which seems kind of weird to me. I will come back and update this thread if there are any major updates.

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E-40 - Choices (Yup)

Posted: 19 Apr 2020 06:18 PM PDT

Metropolis of Foreign Beggars has died

Posted: 19 Apr 2020 08:06 AM PDT

They had just released their last album Matriarchy last year. Damn sad news I loved this record. Been listening to FB for years. Loved his voice. You will be missed!

https://youtu.be/ZDQl8YxeJG0

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Lupe Fiasco - Switch (Fahrenheit 1/15 Part II mixtape, 2006)

Posted: 19 Apr 2020 12:49 PM PDT

Nav - Nav (prod. Nav)

Posted: 19 Apr 2020 10:46 PM PDT

Ab-Soul - The End is Near (feat. Mac Miller)

Posted: 19 Apr 2020 02:42 PM PDT

6lack - Never Know

Posted: 19 Apr 2020 10:18 AM PDT

(FRESH) Shoreline Mafia - Gangstas and Sippas (feat. Q Da Fool)

Posted: 19 Apr 2020 09:21 PM PDT

Rob $tone - Chill Bill (feat. J. Davis & Spooks)

Posted: 19 Apr 2020 12:33 AM PDT

Ludacris - I Do It For Hip Hop (feat. Nas & Jay-Z)

Posted: 19 Apr 2020 02:38 PM PDT
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