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SUNDAY GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD - JUNE 4TH 2017 - HipHop

SUNDAY GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD - JUNE 4TH 2017 - HipHop


SUNDAY GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD - JUNE 4TH 2017

Posted: 04 Jun 2017 02:42 PM PDT

SPORTS SPORTS SPORTS

Dubs or Cavs?

Predators or Penguins?

The Rosecrans album or the G Perico album?

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[FRESH LEAK] Kanye West - Hold Tight (feat. Migos & Young Thug)

Posted: 04 Jun 2017 10:57 AM PDT

[FRESH LEAK] Kanye West - Euro (Switch Hands) (feat. A$AP Rocky)

Posted: 04 Jun 2017 11:00 AM PDT

[REPOST] WARNING ABOUT MUSICMAFIA.TO!

Posted: 04 Jun 2017 05:50 PM PDT

Don't know why mods are removing the og post trying to keep people safe but k

Hey just putting out a warning about those new leak gods musicmafia.to. They have those funding goals on their site for songs but they are fake.

Link to these fake funding goals http://musicmafia.to/music.html#menu

Archive in case they take it down https://archive.fo/UkTCY

Example 1: The Can U Be funding has only received 1 payment of $2.58~ but says 5% funded, ok so maybe $2.58 is 5% of Can U Be's worth?

Proof: https://blockchain.info/address/1QKAbYDwzKVNszQ43mLFbLrggys4pXJzQq

Example 2: PARTYNEXTDOOR feat. Jeremih - Dont Tell Me 8% funded but they really have received $0

Proof: https://blockchain.info/address/1QAAUTiFYF2NmmkibehwNfTUiGvUAS4Z7y

Example 3: Quintino - Convicts also $0 but 10% funded?

Proof: https://blockchain.info/address/1E9jGfmKPv58aoL8ymmtqUbXZmx4hy1mj6

Example 4: Maroon 5 - Earth To Move the same thing $0 but 4% funded

Proof: https://blockchain.info/address/1LddjZJBM4hrMQM8DuXNjRPEALb52Hwg48

If you want to gamble and send they money go ahead but I just want everyone to know they are sketchy and I won't send they a penny of my money

Edit: Went through their site some more and they try to claim that "private bitcoin wallets" are a thing and that's why you can't see how much they are receiving... smh bunch of bullshit

Archive of them saying they have a "private bitcoin wallet"

https://archive.fo/gtYZH

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ScHoolboy Q - THat Part (Black Hippy Remix)

Posted: 04 Jun 2017 05:48 PM PDT

Migos - We Don't Smoke Weed

Posted: 04 Jun 2017 03:19 PM PDT

Stop Using Kanye West As Your Punching Bag: Splendour in the Grass's Sad Kanye reveals a big problem with the way we talk about Kanye West

Posted: 04 Jun 2017 09:46 AM PDT

Mac Miller - Dang! (with Ariana Grande on .Paak vocals)

Posted: 04 Jun 2017 02:31 PM PDT

[FRESH LEAK] Swae Lee ft. Wizkid - Unforgettable Remix

Posted: 04 Jun 2017 11:52 AM PDT

DJ KHALED ft. Drake - "To the Max" Tomorrow at 6AM

Posted: 04 Jun 2017 05:14 PM PDT

Ice cube announces "Good cop, bad cop", to be released on June 9th

Posted: 04 Jun 2017 12:40 PM PDT

Concert Review: Smino’s Swanita Tour proves he’s a star in the making

Posted: 04 Jun 2017 02:19 PM PDT

Concert Info:

Artist: Smino

Tour: Zero Fatigue presents The Swanita Tour

Opening acts: Bari, Jay2, Jean Deaux

Venue: Peter's Room at The Roseland Theater, Portland, OR

Date: May 22nd, 2016

Price: $12 ($16 after online fee)


Review:

Smino's blkswn has been among my favorite hip hop projects of the year so far, a debut album that surprisingly managed to carry the energy and unique sound of its promising singles across the entire project. When I saw Smino was headlining his own tour that would be stopping in Portland, my appreciation of blkswn alone prompted me to decide to go. I was interested in seeing how the music would translate to a live performance, plus the tickets were about as cheap as they come.

Peter's Room is a pretty small venue - capacity of 500 I believe - located on the lower level of the Roseland theater. Lined with old photos and posters from rock and R&B concerts of decades past, a 21+ bar area towards the rear of the room, and a very small stage that only takes up about two-thirds the width of the room, it's an adequate venue for an up-&-coming act looking for a place to play to their growing fan base.

I was very excited to find out upon arrival that Smino was performing with a full band. A drumset and keyboard sat to the right side of the stage, opposite a dual-Macbook DJ table, with room for Smino himself in the center. A bassist, guitarist and two backup singers would later take the stage with him. I admittedly haven't been to any other hip hop concerts of this size (sadly missed both Noname and Saba earlier this year), but it seemed to me like a pretty ambitious setup for a tour this small.

After spending about 20 minutes sitting in the bar area - not drinking but rather for a place to sit down - I made my way toward the stage so I'd have decent spot for the show. Eventually, with a decent portion of the crowd still arriving, Bari sauntered onto the stage very low-key like a rap-game Hannibal Buress, wearing a white tee, shiny sweatpants and metal-rimmed aviator glasses. I wasn't really familiar with Bari's music prior, but his set was enjoyable and showed promise. His delivery and lyricism were both solid, and he worked the stage well with a slightly aloof swagger, towel in one hand and mic held nearly upside-down in the other. The most distinctive quality of his performance was his voice, strong and somewhat deep. On a few occasions a word or line would escalate into something just beyond a shout, almost crying out, and here I saw a vocal quality beginning to peak out that could eventually serve to set him apart. "Talisman" is a nice song to start with if you're looking to get into his music.

Next up was Jay2, quite the opposite of Bari, styled in a jersey, athletic shorts and a black pair of Air Maxes. Jay2 performs with a much quicker, technical flow, and a steady stream of energy. For whatever reason, there were couple songs in his set that he performed his verses along a backing track, which didn't work that well with his style, but there were a multiple other songs I found myself really vibing to despite never hearing them before. A yet-to-be-released track that references Tarantino was a favorite of mine, as well as "Better Serve", both of which show significant potential. Both Bari and Jay2 noted some of their songs were produced by Monte Booker (who produced nearly all of blkswn), and his production did serve them well. Both their sets were promising, they showed genuinely good rapping ability, and I could see them both truly growing into their own in the very near future.

Jay2 and Bari both performed with the DJ only, but Jean Deaux (a bit better known, having collaborated with the likes of Mick Jenkins and Isaiah Rashad) was additionally accompanied by live guitar and bass. I was very impressed by Jean - she has a nicely developing stage presence and particularly strong vocals at times, weaving into a variety of flows (basically rapping on a few songs) and generally using her voice in creative ways. Her songs "Wikipedia" and "Circles" made for particularly great live performances. I can't find either online so I think those were both new, unreleased tracks, which leaves me quite excited for her upcoming music. (Side note: the bassist accompanying Jean Deaux was Phoelix - who has prominently produced and provided vocals on both Noname's Telefone and Saba's Bucket List Project. I think he has a solo project coming later this year.)

The time then came for Smino's set. Phoelix moved to the keyboard and a drummer, bassist and two backup singers joined the band. Monte Booker finally appeared at the DJ table, where he spent the entirety of Smino's set with a towel on his head, inconspicuously working the equipment. Smino finally appeared - on crutches - hobbling up the stairs on the side of the stage, sporting an Oregon Ducks shirt and camo pants. His apparent injury did not hamper the performance though, as the crutches disappeared quickly and he immediately set to getting the crowd hyped. Smino has an excellent stage presence which was recognizable from the very start. Though he spent much of the show balanced on one leg at the center of the stage, he burst with enthusiasm and charisma the whole time.

Somehow, some of the already fantastic songs sounded better live (something not too common among rap performances). And I don't mean the concert was a more exciting, fun environment to hear the songs in - though it certainly was. Rather, the full strength and versatility of Smino's voice becomes fully apparent during the live set. Apart from Kendrick (and Young Thug, though I don't think what he does is as comparable), I genuinely don't think there's anyone in hip hop right now who has vocals as dynamic as Smino. One of the impressive features of blkswn is the way he stretches his voice between a variety of flows and tones with ease, all of which he replicates in the live environment. And damn, he can genuinely sing too. He belted out the opening of "Spitshine" (a brief part of which I captured on snapchat - see below) with a soulful power to his singing voice that I don't think has really been captured in full on any of his studio recordings yet.

Monte Booker's distinctive production for the project was translated to the live format magnificently, reworking the instrumentals to the strengths of the live instruments while keeping the songs recognizable. The band was fantastic and energetic, the drummer in particular just tearing it up at times.

Ultimately, I found my mind settling on one thought over and over as the performance went on: SMINO IS THE REAL DEAL.

He performed with not just hype energy but genuinely commanded the stage with style and professionalism, an entertainer who cares about the experience for his fans. The entire production felt quite polished for a first headlining tour of this size, which really speaks to Smino's ambition. In an interview from 2016, when asked if he cared about making radio records, Smino said he didn't make music specifically for the radio, but would "like to be known as an artist who redefined radio." He and Booker are both clearly very talented, and I think they're really onto something here. In the last year I've been very excited by numerous artists emerging from the Chicago scene such as Saba and Noname, but between blkswn and this live performance, it's Smino who seems the most ready to be a star.

Some time during the night, Smino promised that every time he tours he'll be sure to come back to Portland. And after the show he put on last night, I'll be sure to be there every time.


Video:

Snippet of "Anita" (39 sec)

Snippet of "Father Son Holy Smoke" (50 sec)

LQ snapchat snippet of "Spitshine" intro (10 sec)

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How Boi-1da Made "FREE SMOKE" by Drake (spot-on remake made in FL Studio)

Posted: 04 Jun 2017 12:57 PM PDT

Here's a video I took of Denzel Curry moshing in the crowd during Ultimate at Soundset

Posted: 04 Jun 2017 08:24 PM PDT

[Discussion] First Week Album Sales Since 1991

Posted: 04 Jun 2017 10:01 PM PDT

1991 was the first year that Nielsen started tracking music sales data.

I find it super interesting to look at this and see how current artists stack up against today's artists so I broke it down into a few charts.


Year Artist Album Sales
1991 N.W.A Niggaz4life 954K
1992 ??? ??? ???
1993 Snoop Dogg Doggystyle 803K
1994 Snoop Doggy Dogg Murder Was the Case 329K
1995 Bone Thugs-N-Harmony E.1999 Eternal 307K
1996 2Pac The Don Killuminati: The 7 Day Theory 664K
1997 The Notorious B.I.G. Life After Death 690K
1998 Beastie Boys Hello Nasty 681K
1999 DMX …And Then There Was X 698K
2000 Eminem The Marshall Mathers LP 1.76M
2001 DMX The Great Depression 439K
2002 Eminem The Eminem Show 1.322M
2003 50 Cent Get Rich or Die Tryin' 872K
2004 Eminem Encore 710K
2005 50 Cent The Massacre 1.14M
2006 Jay-Z Kingdom Come 680K
2007 Kanye West Graduation 957K
2008 Lil Wayne Tha Carter III 1.006M
2009 Eminem Relapse 608K
2010 Eminem Recovery 741K
2011 Lil Wayne Tha Carter IV 964K
2012 Nicki Minaj Pink Friday: Roman Reloaded 253K
2013 Eminem The Marshall Mathers LP 2 792K
2014 J. Cole 2014 Forest Hills Drive 375K
2015 Drake If You're Reading This It's Too Late 535K
2016 Drake Views 1.075M
2017 Kendrick Lamar DAMN. 610K

Charts By Year

1991 - Nielsen begins to track music sales data. N.W.A. is King

Artist Album Sales
N.W.A. Niggaz4life 954K
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A lot of data was impossible for me to find here. If I had to guess, Vanilla Ice's "To The Extreme" is number two. Cypress Hill's "Cypress Hill", 2Pac's "2Pacalypse Now", Ice Cube's "Death Certificate", and Naughty by Nature's "Naughty by Nature" probably round out the rest of the top 5.


1992 - N.W.A succeeds as solo acts

Artist Album Sales
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Couldn't find much data for 92. I'm going to guess that Dr. Dre's "The Chronic", Beastie Boys' "Check Your Head", Eazy-E's "5150: Home 4 tha Sick", MC Ren's "Kizz My Black Azz", and Ice Cube's "The Predator" (193K) round out the top 5.


1993 - The Rise of Snoop Dogg

Artist Album Sales
Snoop Dogg Doggystyle 803K
Cypress Hill Black Sunday 261K
Ice Cube Lethal Injection 215K
Eazy-E It's On (Dr. Dre) 187um Killa 111K
??? ??? ???

Snoop set the record for best first week for a debut album. No data for number 5 but I'm going to assume it was 2Pac's "Strictly 4 My N.I.G.G.A.Z...".


1994 - Bone Thugs on uh Come Up

Artist Album Sales
Snoop Doggy Dogg Murder Was the Case 329K
Dr. Dre Concrete Roots 250K
Bone Thugs-N-Harmony Creepin on ah Come Up 220K
Warren G Regulate... G Funk Era 176K
Method Man Tical 120K

1995 - West Coast continues to take up majority of top 5

Artist Album Sales
Bone Thugs-N-Harmony E.1999 Eternal 307K
Tha Dogg Pound Dogg Food 278K
2Pac Me Against The World 240K
Cypress Hill Cypress Hill III: Temples of Boom 142K
Raekwon Only Built 4 Cuban Linx... 130K

1996 - The death of 2Pac

Artist Album Sales
2Pac The Don Killuminati: The 7 Day Theory 664K
2Pac All Eyez On Me 566K
Snoop Dogg Tha Doggfather 479K
Nas It Was Written 268K
The Fugees The Score 206K

1997 - The death of Biggie

Artist Album Sales
The Notorious B.I.G. Life After Death 690K
Wu-Tang Clan Wu-Tang Forever 612K
P. Diddy No Way Out 561K
2Pac R U Still Down? (Remember Me) 549K
Bone Thugs-N-Harmony The Art Of War 394K

1998 - X is coming...

Artist Album Sales
Beastie Boys Hello Nasty 681K
DMX Flesh of My Flesh, Blood of My Blood 670K
Snoop Dogg Da Game Is to Be Sold, Not to Be Told 520K
Master P MP Da Last Don 495K
Lauryn Hill The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill 423K

DMX's "It's Dark and Hell Is Hot" also sold 251K making 1998 a dominant year for X.


1999 - The rise of Nas and Jay-Z

Artist Album Sales
DMX …And Then There Was X 698K
Dr. Dre 2001 516K
The Notorious B.I.G. Born Again 485K
Nas I Am 470K
Jay-Z Vol. 3... Life and Times of S. Carter 462K

Eminem debuted with 283K first week for his "The Slim Shady LP".


2000 - A new millennium and the rise of Eminem

Artist Album Sales
Eminem The Marshall Mathers LP 1.76M
Limp Bizkit Chocolate Starfish and the Hot Dog Flavored Water 1.05M
Jay-Z The Dynasty: Roc La Familia 558K
Outkast Stankonia 530K
Snoop Dogg Tha Last Meal 397K

Eminem smashed N.W.A.'s record and had the most successful first week in hip hop by far. Limp Bizkit also eclipses one million sales and moves into second place. Outkast has their best commercial week thus far. Nelly debuted with 235K sales for "Country Grammar".


2001 - The beginning of the end for DMX

Artist Album Sales
DMX The Great Depression 439K
2Pac Until The End of Time 427K
Jay-Z The Blueprint 420K
D12 Devil's Night 372K
Ja Rule Pain Is Love 361K

2002 - Eminem continues to dominate

Artist Album Sales
Eminem The Eminem Show 1.322M
Nelly Nellyville 714K
Eminem 8 Mile OST 702K
Jay-Z The Blueprint 2: The Gift & The Curse 545K
2Pac Better Dayz 366K

Somehow Pac was still having huuge debuts even 6 years after his death.


2003 - The rise of 50 Cent

Artist Album Sales
50 Cent Get Rich or Die Tryin' 872K
Outkast Speakerboxxx/The Love Below 510K
Jay-Z The Black Album 463K
2Pac Tupac: Resurrection 430K
Ludacris Chicken-n-Beer 429K

G-Unit's "Beg for Mercy" debuted with 377K. Somehow 2Pac continued to stay on top.


2004 - The rise of Kanye West. Eminem, G-Unit & Nelly continue to dominate

Artist Album Sales
Eminem Encore 710K
D12 D12 World 544K
Kanye West The College Dropout 441K
Lloyd Banks The Hunger for More 433K
Nelly Suit 396K

Young Buck's "Straight Outta Cashville" debuted with 361K. Nelly's "Sweat" debuted with 342K. 2Pac continued to post great first weeks with "Loyal to the Game" debuting with 330K.


2005 - 50 Cent "massacres" the competition, the rise of Lil Wayne

Artist Album Sales
50 Cent The Massacre 1.14M
Kanye West Late Registration 860K
The Game The Documentary 586K
50 Cent Get Rich Or Die Tryin' OST 317K
Lil Wayne Tha Carter II 254K

2006 - Jay-Z takes the top spot

Artist Album Sales
Jay-Z Kingdom Come 680K
T.I. King 522K
The Game Doctors Advocate 358K
Nas Hip Hop Is Dead 356K
Young Jeezy The Inspiration 352K

Rick Ross' "Port of Miami" debuted with 187K.


2007 - Kanye kills gangster rap

Artist Album Sales
Kanye West Graduation 957K
50 Cent Curtis 697K
T.I. T.I. vs. T.I.P. 468K
Jay-Z American Gangster 426K
Fabolous From Nothin' to Somethin' 159K

2008 - Weezy F Baby and the F is for "first week king"

Artist Album Sales
Lil Wayne Tha Carter III 1.006M
T.I. Paper Trail 568K
Kanye West 808s & Heartbreak 450K
Young Jeezy The Recession 260K
The Game LAX 240K

2009 - Eminem's return to the top and a new empire

Artist Album Sales
Eminem Relapse 608K
Jay-Z The Blueprint 3 476K
50 Cent Before I Self Destruct 160K
Rick Ross Deeper Than Rap 158K
Young Money We Are Young Money 142K

2010 - The rise of Drake and Nicki

Artist Album Sales
Eminem Recovery 741K
Kanye West My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy 496K
Drake Thank Me Later 447K
Nicki Minaj Pink Friday 395K
Lil Wayne Rebirth 176K
Rick Ross Teflon Don 176K

2011 - Weezy back on top and the rise of J. Cole

Artist Album Sales
Lil Wayne Tha Carter IV 964K
Drake Take Care 631K
Jay-Z & Kanye West Watch the Throne 436K
Young Jeezy Thug Motivation 103: Hustlerz Ambition 233K
J. Cole Cole World: The Sideline Story 217K

2012 - The rise of King Kendrick

Artist Album Sales
Nicki Minaj Pink Friday: Roman Reloaded 253K
Kendrick Lamar Good Kid, M.A.A.D City 242K
Rick Ross God Forgives, I Don't 218K
GOOD Music Cruel Summer 205K
T.I. Trouble Man: Heavy Is the Head 179K

Meek Mill's "Dreams & Nightmares" debuts with 165K.


2013 - Eminem is still sales king

Artist Album Sales
Eminem The Marshall Mathers LP 2 792K
Drake Nothing Was the Same 658K
Jay-Z Magna Carta Holy Grail 527K
Kanye West Yeezus 328K
J. Cole Born Sinner 298K

Drake's "Nothing Was The Same" became the most pirated album of all time. A$AP Rocky's "Long. Live. ASAP" debuts with 139K.


2014 - The rise of streaming

Artist Album Sales
J. Cole 2014 Forest Hills Drive 375K
Nicki Minaj The Pinkprint 244K
Rick Ross Mastermind 179K
Kollegah King 160K
ScHoolboy Q Oxymoron 139K

In 2014 Billboard began to take streaming into account for first week sales and total album sales.


2015 - Back to Back

Artist Album Sales
Drake If You're Reading This It's Too Late 535K
Drake & Future What a Time to Be Alive 375K
Kendrick Lamar To Pimp a Butterfly 363K
Dr. Dre Compton 295K
Meek Mill Dreams Worth More Than Money 245K

2016 - Views from the top

Artist Album Sales
Drake Views 1.075M
J. Cole 4 Your Eyez Only 511K
Kendrick Lamar untitled unmastered 182K
Future Evol 139K
A Tribe Called Quest We Got It From Here... Thank You 4 Your Service 136

Drake becomes the first artist to do a million in a week since Lil Wayne in 2008. "The Life Of Pablo" marks the first time in his career that a Kanye album does not have a top five debut week.


2017 - Kendrick is king and the rise of Logic

Artist Album Sales
Kendrick Lamar DAMN. 610K
Drake More Life 505K
Logic Everybody 251K
Big Sean I Decided 156K
Future FUTURE 139K
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[SORTA FRESH] All remixes of Future's Mask Off combined (Dave East, Kendrick Lamar, Joey Bada$$ & Joyner Lucas)

Posted: 04 Jun 2017 07:58 AM PDT

Playboi Carti - YUNGXANHOE

Posted: 04 Jun 2017 11:39 AM PDT

Lil Peep Drops Official Cover for 'Come Over When You're Sober'

Posted: 04 Jun 2017 01:43 PM PDT

Royce da 5'9" - Tabernacle

Posted: 04 Jun 2017 04:30 PM PDT

[DISCUSSION] A.CHAL - ON GAZ

Posted: 04 Jun 2017 04:07 PM PDT

Really surprised no one created a discussion thread for this project. I fucking love it. Y'all sleeping. Whatchu think about the album?

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Famous Dex "New Wave" Feat. Rich The Kid

Posted: 04 Jun 2017 07:25 AM PDT

Diplo announces a collab EP with Starrah

Posted: 04 Jun 2017 11:39 AM PDT

Made a 30-minute mellow mix of chill songs & interludes including Flying Lotus, MellowHype, Curren$y, Dilla, N.E.R.D, & OutKast

Posted: 04 Jun 2017 09:28 AM PDT

D.R.A.M. - Sweet VA Breeze

Posted: 04 Jun 2017 08:12 AM PDT

[First Impressions] Jay Prince - Late Summers

Posted: 04 Jun 2017 12:45 PM PDT

Been a couple days now, and there hasn't been much discussion what do you guys think?

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