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Daily Discussion Thread 05/19/2020 - HipHop

Daily Discussion Thread 05/19/2020

Posted: 19 May 2020 06:24 AM PDT

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Throwback Write Up #9: Wiz Khalifa & Curren$y - How Fly

Posted: 19 May 2020 07:40 AM PDT

Artist - Wiz Khalifa & Curren$y

Mixtape - How Fly

Listen:

Spotify

Apple Music

YouTube

Background

Years before the superstardom of hits such as Black and Yellow or See You Again, Wiz Khalifa was signed to Rostrum Records and searching for his niche. The young Pittsburgh native released several mixtapes prior to 2009 which generally failed to impress but showed a lot of potential. He had a unique balance of old school, soulful hip-hop and a fun, youthful flair. I'm also sure it goes without saying that he really likes weed. Seriously. With clear influences in Bone Thugz & Harmony, Juicy J, and Snoop Dogg, Wiz would finally breakthrough in 2009 with the release of How Fly and begin one of the genre's greatest mixtape runs (culminating in classics such as Kush & OJ and Taylor Allderice).

Fellow stoner Curren$y had also begun to make a name for himself down south. Following collaborations with Lil Wayne and a spot on the XXL Freshman List, the New Orleans native was following a similar trajectory to Wiz. With each gaining some prolificity in their lanes, their collaboration would convince the game that they had a place among the genre's best.

All it takes is one look at the Cheech & Chong inspired cover art of this mixtape to know what you're in for. Two of hip-hop's most promising young MC's and the game's biggest stoners had teamed up to deliver 53 minutes of soulful, vintage weed raps with an aviation inspired theme. It contains terribly dated references to sports, video games, and more which give it a lot of character. Wiz and Curren$y also show vast knowledge and respect for the genre through countless interpolations and references to classics.

The production is old school smooth, with beats mostly provided by Big Chop, Sledgren, Monsta Beatz (a frequent Curren$y collaborator), and even a gem from DJ Hi-Tek to wrap it all up. The samples are varied and soulful, often sounding straight out of a 60's movie soundtrack and remaining true to the aviation theme. It all feels like a victory lap by two kids who really hadn't made it yet, but they were hungry, confident, and clearly on the way up.

This is an album that I'm sure many of you have a lot of nostalgia for. Whether it was cruising around town on a summer day, vibing with your girl, or obviously rolling one up, there was something for everyone. It was the soundtrack to so many peoples' adolescence and defined a fun, unique era for hip-hop that the average kid could relate to (alongside artists such as Kid Cudi, Blu, and early Drake). Beyond that, this tape was arguably the crown jewel of the Blog Era and helped the two rise to fame in the early 10's mixtape scene. I mean Wiz was pretty much the DatPiff poster boy for years.

Now I love Curren$y but I feel that Wiz really steals the show on this whole tape. His melodic flows, endearing lyrics, and memorable hooks are just so infectious. However, Spitta definitely holds his own and provides a more grounded, southern flavor (with consistently better bars even), which contrasts perfectly with Wiz's huge energy. Their chemistry was really authentic, and they clearly had a lot of fun making this record. How Fly was a match made in heaven and one of my favorite projects ever, so I hope you all enjoy it!

Key Tracks

Car Service

Clear the runway, baby

It's just an iconic opener. Wiz comes in with such infectious delivery which leads up to a subtle beat drop. His prolonged, melodic rhymes do a lot to add personality and the hook is an ear worm. Curren$y brings his signature, lazy southern style and a really impressive rhyme scheme. The beat has so many layers: a short, high pitched vocal sample from Smokey Robinson, subtle whistles, and horns. At the end of the hook, it all chops into a short loop that just culminates perfectly. This is easily one of my favorite intro tracks ever and it's an absolute classic.

The Check Point

I never put my foot on the brake, oh no

This track has a very similar vibe to Car Service but that doesn't do anything to detract from its quality. Another high vocal sample and triumphant tones fill the quota. Curren$y comes through with what might be his best performance on the tape here, with clever flexes and some unexpected references. Wiz's singing on the hook is a bit grating, but the lyrics are still touching and make up for it to an extent. "The Check Point" emphasizes an important theme on this tape: Living without regrets and striving for your dreams. Their chemistry is palpable, and I feel like you can see yourself in them. The hunger, the laidback vibes, and youthful confidence come together to form something special throughout the tape.

Fly N----s Do Fly Things

We already a quarter pound in on this one

This beat has an interesting lo-fi quality to it and some really well done drums. They drive everything along nicely and have some subtle bounce. Wiz's verse starts off a little bit clunky and off beat, but he quickly catches up and delivers well enough. Curren$y comes in with a simple but catchy and clever hook, continuing the album's aviation themes. He also interpolates the staple hip-hop line, "On the road to riches and diamond rings" from both Biggie and Kanye. He has another strong verse, shouting out Wale and referencing the famous Hype Williams film Belly.

In the Middle

And I'm Fucking with the chronic 'cause the chronic give me dopeness

Produced by Big Chop, this has to be the tape's standout beat. Sharing a sample with Snoop Dogg's "Who Am I" — albeit with far less distorted horns — it feels remarkably cinematic. It perfectly elicits the image of an old-school airport or even a campy spy movie. Spitta pays further homage to Snoop as he quotes his verse on "G'z Up Hoes Down". Both come through with their typical subject matter and quality on here, as well as a hook interpolating Andre 3000 on "2 Dope Boyz". Wiz and Curren$y are clearly students of the game with how much knowledge and respect for the culture they display on this tape. Something you might not have expected from two young, fun-loving stoners relatively new to the scene. The beat really steals the show on this track but both MC's do well enough to not drag it down at all.

Layover

Just a dope pair of shoes, Zig Zags and hella tattoos

You've probably noticed a pattern by now: There's nothing particularly profound or varied on this tape but it consistently delivers on its promise of fun, laidback tracks. "Layover" is no exception with its dreamy production and Wiz's cheeky bars. What stands out on this track is their delivery as they intentionally break flow (Spitta at the end of his verse saying, "on a quest like Johnny and Hadgi" and Wiz separating the syllables of "octane"). While a small detail, this adds some subtle variety to a tape with relatively generic themes and structure while showing off their technical skills.

Drunk Dialing

Got these bitches slipping off their wedding rings

Now here's a lighthearted, romantic track. The short, bouncy loop on the beat nicely evokes the image of a fun night on the town. Curren$y sets the scene of his player lifestyle, describing raiding his girl's fridge, playing her son's PS3, and brushing his teeth in the car. Wiz comes in with a really impressive flow and simple, but effective rhyme scheme. He presents a more luxurious twist on Curren$y's verse as he speaks on his romantic life as a young star.

Friendly

We lighting reefer, bumping 808's & Heartbreak

Another track for the ladies, "Friendly" is a perfect example of the pair's chemistry. Curren$y shouting out Wiz's hometown Steelers and references across their verses to Batman make it evident how fun and genuine their friendship is. The beat has a lot going on: Subtle details and the numerous layers give off a scenic, whimsical feeling, although some might find it a bit too busy. The hook is catchy but a bit grating with how distorted it is.

Surface to Air

Crumbling herb just as Big Boi and Andre would suggest

"Surface to Air" has a noir sound similar to "In the Middle" with its rolling, aquatic beat. Curren$y uses missiles as a metaphor for the two star's meteoric rise to the top in rap while resisting the ills of the industry ("It's amazing how I get so high and stay so down to Earth").

Over the Building

Taylor Gang, they rolling up them paper planes

In contrast with "Surface to Air", this track sees the two looking down on the game from their newfound star status. Taking aim at critics ("All them fools make is weed songs"), referencing paparazzi, and never looking back as they speed past the competition. This is another particularly strong beat with its light acoustic guitar and prominent drums.

Rollin' Up

Billionaire clothes, out in Vegas fucking millionaire hoes / I'm in the air solo

A beautiful vocal sample of The Jaggerz' "Memoirs of the Traveler" on this beat (courtesy of DJ Hi-Tek) makes "Rollin' Up" the tape's most essential smoking track. How Fly closes on a somewhat introspective note by Wiz and Spitta's standards. Wiz discusses the loneliness of fame: Fake friends, women who don't truly care about you, and memories of poverty. The two find relief in weed and each other's companionship as they unapologetically commit to their journey and live life to the fullest.

Conclusion

How Fly isn't just an album about getting high. It's about staying true to yourself, forging connections, and chasing your dreams — Things that every listener should be able to relate to. For Wiz Khalifa and Curren$y, it was the start of a legendary run that thrust them into the spotlight. For many people, this project represents a special time in our lives. Youthful and carefree, it was the soundtrack to your high school smoke sessions, road trips, dumb love, and simpler times. Even if you're just now listening, How Fly is mandatory listening for stoners, the backdrop to treasured memories, and the quintessential mixtape of its era.

Favorite Lyrics

Clear the runway baby

I get money from Sunday to Sunday lady

Oh behave I'm young, rich famous

Grinding, keep my pockets on Schwarzenegger

OG in my Swisher so my blunt taste flavored, don't it?

Y'all n----s can get if you want it

Wiz Khalifa, "Car Service"

​

But I don't do drugs, just weed

Caution flags wave, and fuck it I still speed

And proceed to give them what they waiting for

Daytona 500 guess who lighting joints up in the pace car

Play hard, but I work way harder to afford

Curren$y, "The Check Point"

​

Would it be cliché

To start my verse by saying something that I always say,

The Planes got it

I perfected my roll in the science of aeronautics

I swear on my soul I would never cosign no nonsense

Muscle car auction

I just cop it and then garage it

Curren$y, "Fly N----s Do Fly Things"

​

Yeah, 6 am chicks we slay them

Knowing favorite song picks we play them

I ain't on some "oh I'm just some big star shit", but tell you I sure afford it

My lifestyle, all the visuals are gorgeous

Spend nights out couple bitches at the fortress…

Thinking which chick Imma Bruce Lee kick with

Wiz Khalifa, "Drunk Dialing"

​

Smoke filled rooms

Camera lens zoom, from a mile away you can smell the fumes

College girls play me in their iPod or Zune

Even bitches with bad attitudes bumping to our tunes

They high maintenance

Give 'em wings let 'em fly places

Introduce you to high times, flavors, and skyscrapers

Wiz Khalifa, "Surface to Air"

Discussion Questions

  • Favorite track, beats, lyrics, etc.?
  • Did Wiz or Spitta have the better overall performance on this mixtape?
  • How does this project compare to the rest of Wiz and Curren$y's discographies? How does it compare to other mixtapes of its era? (Reminder that the two artists had another collab album recently entitled 2009. Wiz has actually had a small career renaissance recently, returning to his mixtape sound with slept on projects such as Fly Times).
  • People often associate this project with a certain era or events in their lives, making it a strong nostalgia trip. What does this project mean to you personally? Are there any particular memories or feelings that you attach to it?
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Lil Yachty announces Lil Boat 3 release date - May 29th

Posted: 19 May 2020 06:06 PM PDT

Says it will have 19 songs

proof and cover art

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The Weeknd & Doja Cat announces the remix to “In Your Eyes”

Posted: 19 May 2020 05:27 PM PDT

Yung Lean reveals that Cartis label removed his feature, not Lean himself

Posted: 19 May 2020 05:57 AM PDT

The sample to Black Star's "Thieves In The Night" has finally been discovered. 21 years after it's initial release

Posted: 19 May 2020 02:32 PM PDT

[Fresh Album] $ilkmoney - Attack of the Future Shocked, Flesh Covered, Meatbags of the 85

Posted: 19 May 2020 09:00 PM PDT

20 Years Ago, Eminem's "Stan" Predicted The Dark Side Of Modern Fandom

Posted: 19 May 2020 09:11 PM PDT

J.I.D – Mounted Up

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Future - Xanny Family

Posted: 19 May 2020 03:54 PM PDT

Boogie - Soho (ft. JID) [Official Music Video]

Posted: 19 May 2020 09:58 AM PDT

[FRESH VIDEO] Gunna - WUNNA [Official Video]

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Lil Wayne - Pussy Money Weed

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Billboard Hot 100 Discussion - May 17-23 2020 | Gooba debuts at #3

Posted: 19 May 2020 09:07 AM PDT

Billboard Hot 100 chart

Position Title Artist ▲/▼ Last week Weeks Charting Peak
1 Stuck With U Ariana Grande & Justin Bieber ▲+100 [FRESH] 1 1
2 Say So Doja Cat Featuring Nicki Minaj ▼-1 1 19 1
3 Gooba 6ix9ine ▲+98 [FRESH] 1 3
4 Blinding Lights The Weeknd ▼-1 3 24 1
5 Savage Megan Thee Stallion Featuring Beyonce ▼-3 2 9 2
6 Toosie Slide Drake ▼-2 4 6 1
7 The Box Roddy Ricch ▼-2 5 23 1
8 Rockstar DaBaby Featuring Roddy Ricch ▲+1 9 4 8
9 Don't Start Now Dua Lipa ▼-3 6 28 2
10 Circles Post Malone ▼-2 8 37 1
11 Intentions Justin Bieber Featuring Quavo ▼-1 10 14 8
12 Adore You Harry Styles ▼-1 11 23 6
13 Life Is Good Future Featuring Drake - 13 18 2
14 The Bones Maren Morris ▲+1 15 34 12
15 The Scotts THE SCOTTS, Travis Scott & Kid Cudi ▼-3 12 3 1
16 Roses (Imanbek Remix) SAINt JHN ▲+4 20 8 16
17 My Oh My Camila Cabello Featuring DaBaby ▼-1 16 23 12
18 Someone You Loved Lewis Capaldi - 18 53 1
19 Everything I Wanted Billie Eilish ▼-2 17 27 8
20 Blueberry Faygo Lil Mosey ▲+2 22 14 16
21 Chasin' You Morgan Wallen ▲+2 23 16 21
22 Falling Trevor Daniel ▲+6 28 26 22
23 I Hope Gabby Barrett ▼-2 21 20 16
24 Memories Maroon 5 ▲+2 26 34 2
25 Nobody But You Blake Shelton Duet With Gwen Stefani ▼-1 24 18 18
26 High Fashion Roddy Ricch Featuring Mustard ▲+7 33 20 20
27 Death Bed Powfu Featuring beabadoobee ▲+4 31 9 26
28 Does To Me Luke Combs Featuring Eric Church ▲+8 36 9 28
29 Sunday Best Surfaces ▲+8 37 11 28
30 RITMO (Bad Boys For Life) The Black Eyed Peas X J Balvin ▲+8 38 25 26
31 Break My Heart Dua Lipa ▲+9 40 7 21
32 Whats Poppin Jack Harlow ▲+12 44 14 32
33 Be Kind Marshmello & Halsey ▼-4 29 2 29
34 I Hope You're Happy Now Carly Pearce & Lee Brice ▲+16 50 19 34
35 Hot Girl Bummer blackbear ▲+8 43 35 11
36 Beer Can't Fix Thomas Rhett Featuring Jon Pardi ▲+5 41 9 36
37 Before You Go Lewis Capaldi ▲+16 53 15 37
38 After A Few Travis Denning ▲+10 48 7 38
39 Supalonely BENEE Featuring Gus Dapperton ▲+15 54 9 39
40 Heart On Ice Rod Wave ▲+6 46 27 25
41 Ballin' Mustard & Roddy Ricch ▲+6 47 43 11
42 Dance Monkey Tones And I ▲+7 49 32 4
43 3 Headed Goat Lil Durk Featuring Lil Baby & Polo G ▲+58 [FRESH] 1 43
44 Hard To Forget Sam Hunt ▲+11 55 7 40
45 Sum 2 Prove Lil Baby ▲+12 57 18 16
46 Chicago Freestyle Drake Featuring Giveon ▼-32 14 2 14
47 Level Of Concern twenty one pilots ▲+13 60 5 23
48 Party Girl StaySolidRocky ▲+16 64 3 48
49 Righteous Juice WRLD ▼-7 42 3 11
50 Can I Kehlani Featuring Tory Lanez ▲+51 [FRESH] 1 50
51 Pain 1993 Drake Featuring Playboi Carti ▼-44 7 2 7
52 Walk Em Down NLE Choppa Featuring Roddy Ricch ▲+15 67 8 52
53 Dior Pop Smoke ▲+10 63 13 30
54 In Your Eyes The Weeknd ▲+8 62 8 16
55 We Paid Lil Baby & 42 Dugg ▲+6 61 2 55
56 Emotionally Scarred Lil Baby - 56 11 31
57 Bluebird Miranda Lambert ▲+19 76 6 57
58 Heartless Diplo Presents Thomas Wesley Featuring Morgan Wallen ▲+8 66 16 57
59 Here And Now Kenny Chesney ▲+9 68 6 59
60 Turks NAV, Gunna & Travis Scott ▲+31 91 7 17
61 If The World Was Ending JP Saxe Featuring Julia Michaels ▲+10 71 7 59
62 Ride It. Regard ▲+12 74 5 62
63 After Party Don Toliver ▲+21 84 4 63
64 Yo Perreo Sola Bad Bunny ▲+9 73 9 53
65 Zoo York Lil Tjay Featuring Fivio Foreign & Pop Smoke ▲+36 [FRESH] 1 65
66 P*$$y Fairy (OTW) Jhene Aiko ▲+13 79 17 40
67 Out West JACKBOYS Featuring Young Thug ▲+10 77 18 38
68 Toxic Kehlani ▲+33 [FRESH] 1 68
69 One Margarita Luke Bryan ▲+18 87 2 69
70 Believe It PARTYNEXTDOOR & Rihanna ▲+10 80 7 23
71 I'm Ready Sam Smith & Demi Lovato ▲+1 72 4 36
72 In Between Scotty McCreery ▲+13 85 5 72
73 More Hearts Than Mine Ingrid Andress ▼-4 69 20 30
74 I Love My Country Florida Georgia Line ▲+25 99 4 74
75 I Love Me Demi Lovato ▼-5 70 10 18
76 Go Crazy Chris Brown & Young Thug ▲+25 [FRESH] 1 76
77 D4L Future, Drake & Young Thug ▼-58 19 2 19
78 Godzilla Eminem Featuring Juice WRLD ▲+4 82 17 3
79 All In Lil Baby ▼-20 59 3 45
80 Change Your Life Kehlani Featuring Jhene Aiko ▲+21 [FRESH] 1 80
81 God Whispered Your Name Keith Urban ▲+8 89 4 81
82 Die From A Broken Heart Maddie & Tae ▲+12 94 5 80
83 Catch Brett Young ▼-5 78 16 29
84 Don't Rush Young T & Bugsey Featuring Headie One ▲+16 100 2 84
85 Desires Drake Featuring Future ▼-58 27 2 27
86 Be A Light Thomas Rhett Featuring Reba McEntire, Hillary Scott, Chris Tomlin & Keith Urban ▲+9 95 6 71
87 Jump DaBaby Featuring YoungBoy Never Broke Again ▼-4 83 4 17
88 Me Vs Me Moneybagg Yo ▲+13 [FRESH] 1 88
89 Drinking Alone Carrie Underwood ▲+12 [FRESH] 2 89
90 Six Feet Apart Luke Combs ▼-32 58 2 58
91 Viral Moment Lil Durk ▲+10 [FRESH] 1 91
92 Sigues Con El Arcangel x Sech ▲+9 [FRESH] 2 78
93 Homemade Jake Owen ▼-1 92 16 39
94 Time Flies Drake ▼-64 30 2 30
95 Grace Lil Baby & 42 Dugg ▼-7 88 9 48
96 Slow Dance In A Parking Lot Jordan Davis ▼-6 90 19 37
97 You Should Be Sad Halsey ▼-4 93 18 26
98 That Way Lil Uzi Vert ▲+3 [FRESH] 10 20
99 Demons Drake Featuring Fivio Foreign & Sosa Geek ▼-65 34 2 34
100 July Noah Cyrus & Leon Bridges ▲+1 [FRESH] 10 85

Notes

  • 6ix9ine's "Gooba" debuts at #3

  • Ariana Grande & Justin Bieber's "Stuck With U" has debuted at #1

  • "Stuck With U" is the first song to reach #1 this year that isn't hip hop or hip hop adjacent (Mariah Carey reached #1 in December 2019)

Billboard 200 chart

Position Title Artist Sales Change Last week Weeks Charting
1 Good Intentions NAV 133,478 (70,783 pure) -- [FRESH] 1
2 It Was Good Until It Wasn't Kehlani 81,970 (24,362 pure) -- [FRESH] 1
3 Dark Lane Demo Tapes Drake 80,010 (1,622 pure) -65% 2 2
4 My Turn Lil Baby 66,084 (478 pure) -27% 3 11
5 Just Cause Y'all Waited 2 Lil Durk 55,957 (3,107 pure) -- [FRESH] 1
6 BLAME IT ON BABY DaBaby 43,017 (447 pure) -8% 4 4
7 Las Que No Iban A Salir Bad Bunny 39,828 (7,931 pure) -- [FRESH] 1
8 Eternal Atake Lil Uzi Vert 42,507 (909 pure) -4% 5 10
9 After Hours The Weeknd 39,900 (2,925 pure) -10% 6 8
10 Hollywood's Bleeding Post Malone 35,475 (1,260 pure) -5% 8 36

Frequently Asked Questions:

Q: Why is X artist higher than Y artist on the 200 chart, even though X artist sold less?

A: This is because of a discrepancy between Billboard's ranking and the ranking from the website that the sales data is scraped from

Q: Where do you get the sales data from?

A: https://hitsdailydouble.com/sales_plus_streaming

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