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Daily Discussion Thread 04/04/2019 - HipHop

Daily Discussion Thread 04/04/2019 - HipHop

Daily Discussion Thread 04/04/2019

Posted: 04 Apr 2019 10:20 AM PDT

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[FRESH] Lil Nas X & Billy Ray Cyrus - Old Town Road (Remix)

Posted: 04 Apr 2019 09:00 PM PDT

[FRESH] Anderson .Paak - Make It Better (feat. Smokey Robinson)

Posted: 04 Apr 2019 09:03 AM PDT

Judge Orders Kodak Black To Hand Over DNA In South Carolina Rape Case Involving HS Girl

Posted: 04 Apr 2019 07:12 PM PDT

[FRESH] Noname - Song 32

Posted: 04 Apr 2019 08:59 PM PDT

[FRESH ALBUM] Khalid - Free Spirit

Posted: 04 Apr 2019 09:00 PM PDT

[DISCUSSION] Saba - CARE FOR ME (1 Year Later)

Posted: 04 Apr 2019 12:05 PM PDT

CARE FOR ME can be found at or near the top of many publications 'top albums of the year' lists. It was my personal album of the year for 2018, and I know for a fact it was up there for many other HHH users as well.

Compared to the vibrant, spirit-lifting bounce that his debut album "Bucket List Project" gave us, this one takes a complete 180, with darker themes, slower tempos, and stripped back instrumentals

Having much to do with the untimely death of Saba's cousin, Walter, this album is about stories from the past, grieving, honesty, introspection, and ultimately, acceptance.

I believe Saba cemented himself as one of the best new talents in the rap game with this tape, and also proved that he's one of the best storytellers in rap. The 10-track length feels perfect, and the features are on point (besides Chance's verse, never been too crazy about that part). It was entirely produced by Saba, daedaePIVOT, and Daoud, which really gives it a feel of cohesion.

After a year, I'll say that this project really means a lot to me, and I'd give it a score of 9.5/10 with my favorite tracks being: BUSY/SIRENS, LIFE, FIGHTER, & GREY

What did you guys think about Saba's sophomore album?

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[FRESH] Schoolboy Q - CHopstix (feat. Travis Scott)

Posted: 04 Apr 2019 05:08 AM PDT

[FRESH] Pivot Gang - Bad Boys (Ft. Saba, Smino, Joseph Chilliams & MfnMelo)

Posted: 04 Apr 2019 09:00 PM PDT

J.Cole - 4 Your Eyez Only in chronological order of the story

Posted: 04 Apr 2019 06:37 AM PDT

So I made a comment a few days ago that said I thought 4 Your Eyez Only would be considered a masterpiece if Cole had changed the tracklisting so the story and narrative were more obvious from the beginning.

After FHD, people weren't expecting an album that told one long, stoic story about someone Cole knew from the Ville. People were expecting FHD 2.0 when this project was very different from anything Cole had done before. It's much, much darker than anything else he's done. Me and several of my friends didn't initially like it, but personally, I've come around to see Cole's vision.

He even considered retirement before this album. Looking back he was really hurt after losing whoever James was in real life. Putting some of the humor and lightheartedness that was in FHD would feel misplaced in this album. Putting it in order makes the narrative clear, and makes listening to it a lot easier to follow.

I went ahead and put it in chronological order of how the story goes.

  1. For Whom the Bell Tolls - James (Cole's friend from the Ville that was renamed to protect his identity) is good at heart and doesn't want to be a criminal. He wants something to change but the only place he can turn he crime. He prays to the lord as he sees the storm coming, and knows he's running out of options.

  2. Neighbors - Two options here: James starts to partake in illegal activities (selling dope) early in his life and is charged with 2 felonies, or setting up the rampant racism that follows people no matter how big they make it. I know this song is about the police raiding Cole's crib in real life but it can apply to James falling into the trap the system set for him. The arrogance shown ("motha fucka, I am") goes away after being caught and he's humbled a bit but feels empty. This song is like the "Wake Me Up When September Ends" of this album. It's a great song and sonically fits but has very little to do with the narrative unless you make tenuous links.

  3. Deja Vu - James finding the love of his dreams and believing he found destiny. He wants it more than anything but she's taken.

  4. She's Mine pt. 1 - James fulfills what he thinks is his destiny and starts a relationship with the love of his life. He's found the woman he loves and that she loves him back. He began to feel that void in his life being filled. In KOD Cole even talks about how people who lack love feel the need to self medicate. James now has love.

  5. Ville Mentality - James is wondering if he can go on as a criminal now that he has someone he loves so much. He wants to live a long life with her and knows that can't happen if he continues the life of crime. Like I mentioned, Cole believes self medication comes from a lack of love shown to addicts starting from a young age. James filled that hole by falling into the trap the crooked system set for him but pulls himself out of it by falling in love with a female human.

  6. Foldin Clothes - James is abandoning the gangster lifestyle to be with his girl. Finding that life pre-For Whom the Bell Tolls is a lot better when you have someone that you love with you going through it together.

  7. She's Mine pt. 2 - James is having his child, Nina, and learning what the unconditional love of fatherhood feels like. His heart is filling up and he's feeling more love than he's ever felt before.

  8. Change - James begins to spread word that change can happen in the black community internally. There is a lot of external forces causing blacks to be suppressed but there's also a lot of internal issues. But James gets caught in the crossfire and dies from what he was trying to change.

  9. Immortal - Cole remembering James. The eulogy from the end of Change leads itself into this really well. This is the biggest change. This song makes no sense being number 2 on the orignal track listing. This is obviously Cole mourning James, but when it's at 2, no one even knows what the album is about yet, now that we've heard what happened to James, we can see why Cole sounds like he's holding back tears and the song becomes much more emotional.

  10. 4 Your Eyez Only - Cole tells Nnia the story of James.

tl;dr: 4 Your Eyez Only is out of order and I put it in order to make the narrative clear.

I made it into a playlist on Spotify if you wanna see if you feel it works better this way

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Pivot Gang album "You Can't Sit With Us" + tracklist announced featuring Smino, Mick Jenkins, Kari Faux, Jean Deaux

Posted: 04 Apr 2019 02:12 PM PDT

Childish Gambino's "Guava Island" April 13th

Posted: 04 Apr 2019 10:14 PM PDT

New Ads on Spotify have been popping up about Childish Gambino's "Guava Island".

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[FRESH VIDEO] Dominic Fike - 3 Nights (dir. Kevin Abstract)

Posted: 04 Apr 2019 12:13 PM PDT

[FRESH VIDEO] James Blake - Barefoot In The Park (feat. ROSALÍA)

Posted: 04 Apr 2019 08:04 AM PDT

[FRESH MIXTAPE] Conway - Everybody is FOOD 3

Posted: 04 Apr 2019 05:15 PM PDT

Future & Drake teasing WATTBA 2: "It's cooked"

Posted: 04 Apr 2019 10:37 PM PDT

[Fresh Album] Ramriddlz - Ramreaper

Posted: 04 Apr 2019 09:00 PM PDT

How Curren$y Rose to be the King of New Orleans, in His Own Words (Happy 38th Birthday Spitta)

Posted: 04 Apr 2019 12:15 PM PDT

My brother and I interviewed Birdman and Juvenile, and while really nervous that it wouldn't go well, Baby was so relaxed, smart, funny. We got him to show off his true personality.

Posted: 04 Apr 2019 09:55 AM PDT

Earl Sweatshirt - Wind In My Sails

Posted: 04 Apr 2019 10:32 AM PDT

Logic - Fade Away

Posted: 04 Apr 2019 01:17 PM PDT

J. Cole - 4 Your Eyez Only

Posted: 04 Apr 2019 04:31 PM PDT

[FRESH EP] A$AP Ant - Addie Izzo

Posted: 04 Apr 2019 07:56 PM PDT

[FRESH] bladee - Apple

Posted: 04 Apr 2019 11:00 AM PDT

Trapo announces he's quitting music

Posted: 04 Apr 2019 08:22 PM PDT

Just posted on his instagram here. Really upsetting if true, he was one of my favorite young rappers. Oil Change was a really solid project if anyone wants to check it out

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[FRESH ALBUM] PNL - Deux frères

Posted: 04 Apr 2019 03:06 PM PDT
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