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Hip-Hop Listening Club Album of the Week #240: Vince Staples - Stolen Youth - HipHop

Hip-Hop Listening Club Album of the Week #240: Vince Staples - Stolen Youth

Posted: 02 Mar 2018 03:44 AM PST

Welcome to HHH Listening Club!

This week we'll be listening to Stolen Youth by Vince Staples.

Background

provided by u/droche25

Vince Staple's Stolen Youth is the third project released by Vince and his first and only full-length collaboration with Larry Fisherman A.K.A Mac Miller. These songs were recorded at Mac's house in L.A., and feature some quintessential L.A. artists of the 2010s, like ScHoolboy Q, Ab-Soul, and Joey Fatts. Mac supplied the ominous beats for the project, and Vince raps likes "he's running out of hope…"

Vince Staples is known for being honest and keeping it "real". For me, this is his "realest" and best project in his discography. At 19 years old, Vince tackles heavy drug use, child abuse, and gun violence like he has experienced a lifetime of it. Vince said that this was his most difficult project to make, and I think that is a large reason why it sounds so different from any other project from Vince. He excels at explaining all the brutal situations he saw growing up in poverty, and at conveying the mindset of the crowd that is engaging in these activities. Vince raps like he needs to have revenge due to the world robbing him of his innocence. His delivery can sound nihilistic, but it seems more like Vince has been broken down from experiencing the trauma that comes from growing up in his neighborhood.

Now Vince has been able to keep spitting bars that reflect the realness of his hometown and the lifestyle of his friends and family. However, his beat selection over the following projects started to very more in style, sound, and even genre. This project has arguably the darkest feel of any Vince project due to Larry Fisherman's production. On 'Heaven', the instrumental that Mac laid down is very skeletal yet dark. On 'Back Sellin Crack', he supplies a beat that makes you want to grab the nearest gun and go fuck shit up. Also, props to Q for supplying a devastating guest verse on this track. Even something off the wall like the 'Stuck in My Way' instrumental, which seems slightly whimsical like a DOOM beat, matches perfectly with Vince's "don't give a fuck" delivery. I am a diehard No I.D. fan, but I think Mac has supplied Vince with his best beats thus far.

I wish this duo would go for one more round, even if they don't re-reflect on how Vince's youth was stolen. This was the project that got me into Vince Staples, like it probably was for many of you on hhh. If you haven't listened to this project before and like Vince, Mac or West Coast Hip Hop, listen to this. Even if you aren't a fan of either artist, this half an hour project is well worth your time. If you love this project, bump it one more time, and keep in mind that this project is almost 5 years old. What have you done with your life since June 2013? Feature in a Sprite Commercial?

This project was selected by u/droche25

Album: Stolen Youth

Label: Blacksmith Records/A.G.

Producer(s): Larry Fisherman

Representing: North Long Beach, CA

Streaming Sources:

  • YouTube

  • Soundcloud

  • Spotify: unavailable

  • Apple Music/iTunes: unavailable

  • Google Music: unavailable

Guidelines:

This is an open thread to share your thoughts on the album. Avoid vague statements of praise or criticism. This is your chance to be a critic.

Please keep any top level comments to 140+ characters unless you have a simple question to ask about the album.

Why do you like this album? What are the best tracks? Did it meet your expectations? Have you listened to this tape before? What is your first impression? Explain why you like it or why you don't.

Remember, people who participate in the discussion in a meaningful way are entered into a drawing to select next week's album!

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New Music Friday: March 2nd, 2018

Posted: 02 Mar 2018 12:01 PM PST

Albums

Tory Lanez - Memories Don't Die

Larry June - You're Doing Good

Nessly - Wildflower

Phonte - No News Is Good News

Tech N9ne - The Planet

Apathy - The Widow's Son

EPs

Valee - GOOD Job, You Found Me

Mozzy - Spiritual Conversations

Higher Brothers & Harikiri - Type-3

Songs

DJ Khaled - Top Off (feat. Future, Jay-Z & Beyoncé)

Gucci Mane - Solitaire (feat. Migos & Lil Yachty)

Slim Jxmmi - Brxnk Truck

Swae Lee - Hurt to Look

Rae Sremmurd - Powerglide (feat. Juicy J)

Logic & Marshmello - Everyday

XXXTentacion - Sad!

Topaz Jones - Nectar/Pleasure Pain Passion (feat. KAMAU)

Tom Misch - It Runs Through Me (feat. De La Soul)

Young Fathers - Toy

Dave - Hangman

Armand Hammer - Dead Money (L'Orange Remix)

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Rick Ross Hospitalized, Possible Pneumonia

Posted: 02 Mar 2018 07:23 AM PST

[DISCUSSION] Can we talk about this blatant rape line on Young Dolph's new EP??

Posted: 02 Mar 2018 08:14 PM PST

So if you don't know, now you know -- Almost two weeks ago, Young Dolph released his latest project, "N*****s Get Shot Everyday - EP". It had pretty underwhelming reception, most people in the reaction thread weren't feeling it. Personally, I thought it had the best production he's had thus far in his career, it sounded like time was actually spent crafting it.

On the track with what may be the best production on the album (Young Dolph - Slave Owner), he really makes the listener uncomfortable when he raps the lines:

Drop a pill in her drink like Bill (whoa)

Smash her on the first night, I bet I will (uh-huh)

You wanna get in this car, take off them heels (take them off)

................................

uhhmmmm

yikes

"Bill" obviously referring to Bill Cosby, who was accused (but not found guilty) of 60 counts of sexual assault. Despite not being found guilty this line seems to insinuate to be doing what Bill was alleged to have done.

Besides from the obvious, it's also kind of disturbing considering how carefully polished the project seemed to be. Comparing it with past work, the beats sound mastered and nothing sounds like just something he freestyled. Which means this was listened to a couple times and okayed the same number of times..

For more background, Dolph has always kind of had a little misogynistic vibe, more than your typical "I fucked your bitch" lines, I don't know how many times he's rhymed "bitch" with "bitch" as a rhyme scheme throughout a song, e.g. on Play Wit Yo Bitch

Still, this is excessively weird. I always ignored the other shit because, well, it's hip-hop. But this in particular, it's almost exactly like the line Rick Ross had on U.O.E.N.O (Remix), which was:

Put Molly all in her champagne, she ain't even know it

I took her home and I enjoyed that, she ain't even know it

Similarities are uncanny. But one is held to a higher standard than the other

Discussion Quentions:

  • What do you think should be the repercussions for saying these kinds of lines? Though they may or may not have acted on these lines, is advocacy just as important to be critical of, especially in a post-#MeToo society?

  • Do you think Rick Ross' treatment was fair? Is it right to forgive him now?

  • Do you think getting shot at 101 times had an effect on Young Dolph's judgment? He has alleged to be a "dog" before, do you think 101 shots makes him a Dalmatian? Should I make this into a rap line to diss him with?

  • Should people organize to tweet him @ twitter like with Rick Ross?

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6ix9ine's "Day 69" sells 55K First Week (21K Pure). Blac Youngsta's "223" sells 12K First Week (Fewer than 2K Pure).

Posted: 02 Mar 2018 01:44 PM PST

Rank Artist Album Label Pure Sales Sales + Streaming
1 Justin Timberlake Man of the Woods RCA 243K 296K
2 Migos Culture II Quality Control/Motown/Capitol 34K 200K
3 Various Artists Black Panther TDE/Aftermath/Interscope 52K 156K
4 6ix9ine Day 69 Scum Gang/Ten Thousand 21K 55K
5 Nipsey Hussle Victory Lap Atlantic 25K 48K
6 Rich Brian Amen 88Rising/Empire 4K 19K
7 Lil Skies Life of a Dark Rose Atlantic 5K 16K
8 Moneybagg Yo 2 Heartless N-Less/Interscope 5K 14K
9 Blac Youngsta 223 Epic N/A 12K
10 Dave East P2 Def Jam N/A 11K
11 2 Chainz The Play Don't Care Who Makes It Def Jam N/A 11K

FAQ:

Q: Source?

A: http://hitsdailydouble.com/building_album_chart

Q: How is this list sorted?

A: It's sorted by sales + streaming

Q: What are pure sales?

A: Pure sales are purchases of the album (itunes, amazon, physicals, etc)

Q: Where is X album?

A: Only albums with 10K in sales + streaming are listed

Q: Why are Blac Youngsta, Dave East, and 2 Chainz' pure sales "N/A"

A: Both artist's pure sales were outside of the top 50 for their release weeks, meaning the exact number was unknown. Dave East and 2 Chainz sold fewer than 3K pure copies, Blac Youngsta sold fewer than 2K pure copies.

Q: Where can I find last year's list?

A: 2017 list, 2016 list, 2015 list

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Tory Lanez accused of biting VI Seconds on new album

Posted: 02 Mar 2018 02:46 PM PST

VI Seconds talking bout it

VI Seconds talking about it on Twitter

Tory Lanez - Hate To Say

VI Seconds - 3:30am

"Hate to Say" is produced by Play Picasso, Christian Lou, & BobbyMadeTheBeat

In the song Tory says:

A nigga flow so well i'm like a sampling kit
give a fuck 'bout who get pissed about my samples and skits
niggas mad i'm remixing their shit
fuck outta here nigga stop being a bitch

On his last album, he was accused by listeners of jacking "The Art of Peer Pressure" on the 2nd part of "4AM Flex"

Also Fetty Wap on "To D.R.E.A.M."

In response to being told by listeners he sounds like Travis Scott on "Litty" he defended himself tweeting:

I can't sound like somebody I wrote for…

He wrote the hook on "Brand New Choppa". He later deleted the tweet

He was also accused of biting lines for a freestyle from Don Q and Cassidy. Video here. His response

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[FRESH] Run the Jewels - RTJ3 Instrumentals Full Album

Posted: 02 Mar 2018 01:26 PM PST

[SHOTS FIRED (?)] 50 Cent posts captionless picture of Ivan Drago, commonly used for the "If he dies, he dies" meme

Posted: 02 Mar 2018 10:31 PM PST

[FRESH ALBUM] Chief Keef - The Leek 4

Posted: 02 Mar 2018 10:28 AM PST

T.I.- That's all she wrote ft. Eminem

Posted: 02 Mar 2018 12:37 PM PST

I did an interview with Lil Peep in the beginning of 2017 and never published it cause it didn't fit the quality standards. You can read it here (intro text in german).

Posted: 02 Mar 2018 05:41 AM PST

BROCKHAMPTON Confirms First Featured Artist

Posted: 02 Mar 2018 11:28 PM PST

Lil Uzi Vert, they just confirmed this at their Portland show when a fan asked who their first featured artist was going to be. So guess we have a collab incoming. Thoughts?

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Jay Rock - Traffic Jam (Easy Bake Remix) feat. Kendrick Lamar, SZA

Posted: 02 Mar 2018 08:47 AM PST

Grime legend Wiley awarded MBE for his services to music

Posted: 02 Mar 2018 07:06 AM PST

[FRESH] Joey Bada$$ podcast 47 minutes

Posted: 02 Mar 2018 01:47 PM PST

[FRESH] Dj Khaled - Top Off feat. Future, Jay Z, Beyoncé

Posted: 02 Mar 2018 03:01 AM PST

21 Savage, Offset, Metro Boomin - Still Serving

Posted: 02 Mar 2018 02:25 PM PST

[FRESH VIDEO] KILLY - Very Scary

Posted: 02 Mar 2018 03:01 PM PST

Daily Discussion Thread 03/02/2018

Posted: 02 Mar 2018 10:43 AM PST

Welcome to the /r/hiphopheads daily discussion thread!

This thread is for:

  • objective questions with right/wrong answers (e.g. "Does anyone know what is happening with MIXTAPE?", "What is the sample in SONG?")
  • general hip-hop discussion
  • meta posts...e.g. ideas for the sub

Thread Guidelines

  • Do not create a separate self post for these types of discussions outside of this thread - if you do, your post will be removed.

  • Please be helpful and friendly.

  • If a question has been asked many times before, provide a link to a thread that contains the answer.

Other ways to interact

There are a number of other ways to interact with other members of HHH:

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[Fresh] Dr. Octagon - Area 54

Posted: 02 Mar 2018 09:39 AM PST

[FRESH EP] Internet Strangers - Stranger Season

Posted: 02 Mar 2018 09:27 PM PST

Jay Critch x Rich The Kid - Did It Again

Posted: 02 Mar 2018 06:59 AM PST

Spotted the Royce 5’9” x J Cole song on the Spotify release radar

Posted: 02 Mar 2018 08:58 PM PST

Flying Lotus and Kendrick Lamar - Eyes Above

Posted: 02 Mar 2018 07:59 AM PST
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