Top Ten Tuesday: Big Sean (revisited) - HipHop

So this recent beef was prompted as an overdue response to Drake's track "Two Birds One Stone" where Drake threw some punches towards Push. Pusha has been wanting to respond to this for a while.

Infrared was a planned pump fake.

See, Pusha knew that he had to come up with something good to take down the biggest star in hip hop at the moment. So he cooks up something savage: The Life of Adidon. The problem is, this track is too savage on its own. Pusha knew that he couldn't start off with something so brutal and personal. It would seem uncalled for. So instead he releases Infrared.

Pusha did this strategically. Pusha throws out a couple lines about Quentin. It's weak enough that Drake thinks he can roast him like he did Meek. It works. Drake drops a freestyle immediately just like his last beef. At this point, Pusha has Drake exactly where he wants him. Now Pusha can really go in. He brings out the album art and story of Adonis that he really wanted to show all along. Spices it up with a couple references to Drake's Duppy Diss Track and now the rest is history.

What do y'all think?

Edit: u/LITW6991 coming in with some interesting evidence: "I think Pusha definitely had this planned especially because of how the 'So I don't tap dance for the crackas and sing Mammy' line links to the Blackface cover."

Edit 2: Oh shit, Fantano agrees in his new video

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[SHOTS FIRED] Adidon is allegedly the name of Drake’s upcoming Adidas line and now it’s associated with the Pusha diss

Posted: 29 May 2018 10:38 PM PDT

From Toure on Twitter:

Adidon is the name of Drake's upcoming Adidas line and now that name will be associated with this beef and Pusha's monstrous diss track. Pusha has, in effect, screwed up Drake's brand before it came out.

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Drake geeking out about his Pusha T-signed microphone

Posted: 29 May 2018 03:01 PM PDT

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Pusha T to replace BROCKHAMPTON at Governors Ball

Posted: 29 May 2018 07:19 AM PDT

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Pusha-T Breaks Down Every Song on His New Album, Daytona

Posted: 29 May 2018 03:18 PM PDT

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Ebro: Kanye was supposed to be on Nice For What but something happened and they axed it

Posted: 29 May 2018 10:46 AM PDT

Source

Ebro also doesn't believe Kanye's album will only be 7 tracks long and they say the origin of this beef was in 2001 when Pharrell wasn't paid for a hit he produced.

Overall, nice little segment.

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[FRESH] Quentin Miller - Destiny (Freestyle) (Drake & Pusha T Response)

Posted: 29 May 2018 03:56 PM PDT

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Kid Cudi's TED Talk

Posted: 29 May 2018 01:07 PM PDT

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Odd Future - Oldie

Posted: 29 May 2018 04:00 AM PDT

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[FRESH] J. Cole "1985" (DJ Premier 1966 Remix)

Posted: 29 May 2018 08:55 AM PDT

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YBN Cordae on meeting Nahmir and Almighty Jay: "We all met on Xbox Live. Spitting freestyles over video games. And then we met in real life."

Posted: 29 May 2018 09:04 AM PDT

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By the Numbers: TLOP was Kanye West’s most Ambitious Sampling Project Ever (51.7% more Unique Samples than any other Album in his Discography)

Posted: 29 May 2018 12:00 PM PDT

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Night Lovell On Twitter: " LOVELL X $UICIDEBOY$ SONG TONIGHT"

Posted: 29 May 2018 05:01 PM PDT

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Pusha T & Playboi Carti to do a free show in Montreal next week.

Posted: 29 May 2018 09:01 AM PDT

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Kanye West "lost" interview from 2007, talks about his foundation, his growing legacy inside and out of music, using controversy to sell music.

Posted: 29 May 2018 11:46 AM PDT

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[FRESH LEAK] Gorillaz - Humility

Posted: 29 May 2018 04:03 PM PDT

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Rich The Kid announces "Plug Walk Remix" (Ft. Gucci Mane, 2 Chainz & YG)

Posted: 29 May 2018 03:16 PM PDT

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A somewhat complete history of how we got to this moment: Drake vs. Pusha T

Posted: 29 May 2018 11:25 PM PDT

So I'm kinda hazy on how it all started but to set all this up, Birdman (Baby) and Clipse collabed on What Happened To That Boy? in 2002 which really has little to nothing to do with the beef but it's a fucking banger and I would be remiss to not include it.

The beef publicly started in 2006 when Lil Wayne posed for the cover of Vibe Magazine wearing Bape and of course, the godfathers of that shit were Pharrell and Clipse. They were bothered enough to write a not so subtle diss track, which many of you may have heard but not known it was for Wayne, Mr. Me Too.

Naturally, Wayne was approaching the top of the hip-hop world at the time and wasn't going to back down from talking shit so in an interview with Complex he fired back:

"Talk to me like you're talking to the best. I don't see no fuckin' Clipse...They had to do a song with us to get hot, B. "What Happened To That Boy?" C'mon B. Don't do that, dog. This is a fucking legend you're talking to right here. 14 years, B. How many years them niggas been around?"

"Who the fuck is Pharrell? Do you really respect him? That nigga wore BAPE's and y'all thought he was weird. I wore it and y'all thought it was hot."

After this the beef kinda got quiet for a while on the YM side, Clipse did a couple of interviews where they discussed it and said the typical shit about Wayne being Baby's bitch, also mentioning that Baby's verse on "What Happened to That Boy?' wasn't written by him, and then dissed Wayne again on Re-Up Gang Intro in 2008. Seemingly out of nowhere Push then gives a "Free Weezy" shout out on Open your Eye's and suddenly it seems like the beef is in the rearview.

As I am writing this I'm realizing how much the game has changed since all this started. At this point Wayne is coming out of Rickers after doing time for gun possesion, Malice left Clipse to live a cleaner, more religious life, Push is now a member of G.O.O.D. music doing solo work, and Drake was coming fast on the scene as hip-hop's next star. At the time many people (me) had really forgotten about the beef and assumed it was squashed.

Now, approaching a time what most of you non "old heads" may start to recognize, the beef between Push and Drake. Push's not so well known Don't Fuck with Me followed by his more famous Drake, Wayne, and Baby diss Exodus 23:1 really started the GOOD Music era beef between the two camps (which is how Cudi is involved in this Civil War ass timeline). Weezy finally breaks his silence after all these years and releases a response in Ghoulish which everyone shits on but in all honesty isn't too bad of a response. This, however, marks the end of Wayne's involvement in the beef. Push claims the track was so weak that he doesn't even need to respond to it (even though he continues to talk shit about "Weezy falling off" after Dedication 5 is released, but whatever) and in 2012 Wayne also says he is over it.

Drake responded to Exodus with some subtle shots on Tuscan Leather and Push begins to respond with a barrage of shots back. The week Drake was set to host SNL in 2014 Push dropped the video for Suicide followed by the freestyle HGTV released in 2016 (by far the hardest bars up to this point and it disappoints me that this was not the moment the beef blew up).

Drake then sends some more shots to Push on Two Birds, One Stone which no one remembers due to the fact that it is physically impossible to listen to More Life all the way through more than one time. Which gets us to the Infrared diss, the Duppy Freestyle and where we are now.

What have we learned from all this? Never wear Bape? Probably. Not too sure, honestly take what you want from this I'm just excited I finally have something to look forward to in hip-hop this summer. Worst case scenario, this is the end of the beef and oh well, we got some great tracks and hopefully, Drake learns to be a good dad. If not, we have an entire summer of diss tracks to look forward to. I might be over analyzing this but it feels like a career-defining time for a lot of people involved (Wayne, Drake, Push, Kanye, Nikki?, whoever the fuck else gets involved in this somehow). Anyway, hope you enjoyed and learned something, this is my first of hopefully many quality posts and if you got this far thanks for reading.

Peace and love,

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Snoop Dogg Bought A Bulletproof Van After Biggie's Murder

Posted: 29 May 2018 05:57 PM PDT

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Daily Discussion Thread 05/29/2018

Posted: 29 May 2018 04:17 PM PDT

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