Sunday General Discussion - March 1st, 2020 - HipHop |
- Sunday General Discussion - March 1st, 2020
- Public Enemy Fires Flavor Flav After Bernie Sanders Rally Spat
- [FRESH] Lil Uzi Vert- That Way
- Flavor Flav Hits Bernie Sanders With Cease and Desist Over Public Enemy Campaign Appearance, Chuck D responds: “Flavor chooses to dance for his money and not do benevolent work like this, he has a year to get his act together and get himself straight or he’s out.”
- The Hip Hop Lines of the 2010s
- [LEAK] Drake - Not Around
- [FRESH ALBUM] - BONES & XAVIER WULF - BRACE
- 8 year old girl dropping absolute bars over Roc Marciano's Snow
- [LEAK] Thundercat - It Is What It Is
- [FRESH ALBUM] Drakeo The Ruler - FREE DRAKEO
- Blueface announces release date for his next album "Find The Beat"
- [DISCUSSION] Little Simz - GREY Area (1 Year Later)
- PUBLIC ENEMY Live at Los Aangeles Rally for Bernie Sanders
- [FRESH ALBUM] Lofty305 - Echidna
- NEW REASON AB-SOUL BOOGIE LEAK
- [Discussion] DaBaby - Baby On Baby (One year later)
- Redman-Tonight’s Da Night
- Tech N9ne - B.I.T.C.H. (Feat. T-Pain)
- Lil Baby - Forever feat. Lil Wayne
- 2Pac - Things R Changing
- [FRESH] SpaceGhostPurrp - SPACEGHOSTPUSSY RESPONSE (END OF ASAP ROCKY AKA ASAP SISSY PONY)
- [FRESH VIDEO] JPEGMAFIA - The Making Of: How To Build A Relationship
- [FRESH] Teejayx6 - Pajamas & Crocs
- Buddy - Staircases (feat. Kendrick Lamar) [Prod. The Neptunes]
- [FRESH ALBUM] Five Finger Posse - 5th Season
| Sunday General Discussion - March 1st, 2020 Posted: 01 Mar 2020 09:05 AM PST |
| Public Enemy Fires Flavor Flav After Bernie Sanders Rally Spat Posted: 01 Mar 2020 06:29 PM PST |
| [FRESH] Lil Uzi Vert- That Way Posted: 01 Mar 2020 09:04 AM PST |
| Posted: 01 Mar 2020 10:06 AM PST Edit: update he was fired —-
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| The Hip Hop Lines of the 2010s Posted: 01 Mar 2020 07:22 AM PST I usually do an annual write up but here's a bonus. NOTE: These are lyrics that somewhat defined the artists who in turn defined 2010-2019. These ARE NOT the best lines said by an artist nor their most memorable bars. Most of these lines also are from early in the decade/career as they seem fitting (self-fulfilling prophecy and shit). Also, this list is popularity over skill. Any of the relatively smaller artists mentioned are from my own bias of their skill and impact/notoriety in hip hop during the 2010s. I ask posters to tell me their favorite/memorable lines, and to try and put me onto an artist I perhaps never listened to. There are several of my favorites that I simply cannot put on here or are regulated to the honorable mentions. This is a thick list so I cannot do a proper write up for all entries.
The most defining line of rap this past decade is not from a song, but is from a Kanye rant. My feelings on Mr. West has changed over the years, and while I disagree with his recent statements, this quote from 2013 is still stands. Rap is the new rock. Rap is now the genre that is at the top. Rap is the genre full of the "bad influences" that middle America is too ignorant to actual look at. Rap is the genre with the bad words, the political statements, the party tracks, the nonsense, the soul, the spirit, the drug overdoses, the groupies, the strong women, the breakoffs into sub-genres, etc. After 40 years, Hip Hop music is the dominant genre and its influence is worldwide. We can't be stopped.
I remember when Best I Never Had dropped its music video and my sister called me into the living room to watch it on MTV2. Halfway through, I asked her, "Isn't that the wheelchair dude on that show you like?" Who fucking knew that Jimmy from Degrassi would turn into the biggest star of the 2010s. Love him, hate him, he's broken records in sales/streaming and he made a lot of money in the meantime. When Drake said this bar in 2015, there was some arguments, but he's right: If he died at that position, his fans would force the culture to see him as a legend. And despite my issues with him, I can name three) strong reasons that makes his statement true. A toast to the Champagne Papi.
Despite other rappers being more popular than him in certain circles of entertainment, Kendrick Lamar has earned his position as the King of Hip Hop. From his rise under Dre to beating Drake in sales, Kendrick's journey to the top was an amazing experience for listeners. In three fantastic albums, Kendrick cemented his legacy in the 2010s and until another rapper can outdo him, he holds the crown. (Plus, three great albums tends to throws you into GOAT talk). Put it this way: Kendrick Lamar is a better rapper than your favorite rapper. His "throwaway" album was great. His soundtrack album was great. And yes, MAAD city is the better song, but dammit, the song before it should get loved as well.
This applies to the previous three lines: At the start of the decade, Earl was rapping about sexual assault, Tyler was pissing every one off, and Frank was putting out projects at a steady rate. Oh yeah, they also were all form the same group, named "Odd Future Wolf Gang Kill Them All" which is connected to "Golf Wang" "Flog Gnaw," and had a few members appear in the beloved "Gucci Gucci" music video with Kreashawn (more about that in another thread). The changes from 2011 OF to the standalone acts of Tyler, Earl, and Frank are crazy to review. Others have, so I won't, but man I'm glad to have witnessed these three artist grow in and out of their music.
I consider Cole the amongst Drake and Kendrick as the "Three Musketeers" of 2010s rap, at least popularity wise. The trio laid down so many good tracks. J. Cole fits a lot of what people wanted from a rapper after the ringtone-rap era. But, once he started doing it, it's like people didn't want it anymore. Folks called him boring, but everyone knew he could spit. In comes 2014 FHD, and boy, Cole cemented his place in the Big 3, and he's pretty good at ball, too. While 4 Your Eyez Only and KOD split some fans apart, I liked the albums. He has pushed his image as a bigger brother in rap, or at least, a middle child, so let's see what he can do in 2020.
In the third decade of his (studio album) career, Jay has blessed us with another classic in the form of 4:44, expressing the maturity of a former drug dealer turned rapper/businesscomma man. Fanboying aside, Jay has taken up the role hip-hop's dad. One that lectures you about what's right from wrong at the end of a sitcom. Shout out to Uncle Phil, Carl Winslow, Pops, and even Dre from black-ish.FuckPillCosby Jay also collaborates and give shout outs to rising rappers he deems fit for the mic. It was a bit of a rocky start with MCHG telling people to appreciate art, but it took a retrospective of Shawn Carter and several guest features to remind people that Hov's still alive.
Another legend in his third decade of rhyming. After the divisive Relapse in 2009, Eminem took on a different persona, or at least cut down on Slim Shady, until he wanted to promote a sequel. He has a "father of rap" role amongst the younger rappers of this generation, but it's the dad whose jokes don't always land well. For every Caterpillar verse or Chloraseptic Remix, there's a Revival. He keeps doing those songs with [insert female pop vocalist] on the chorus that don't land like they did on his first few albums, and yet, he'll still give you a career just to destroy it in a rap beef. It's like, we know he can spit, but he keeps releasing shit that proves otherwise. (I originally used a line from his 2011 BET Cypher, so go check that out )
It's like, we know he can spit, but he keeps releasing shit that proves otherwise. He keeps doing those songs with ["I'm biracial!"] on the chorus, but it don't land like his first few mixtapes, yet, he'll looks up recent Logic lyric . . . yet he'll "suck a dick just to prove it ain't that way". . . Huh? I honestly Logic gets caught under pressure and the hate on social media gets to him. Here's another white rapper that people say is killing mumble rappers and "saving rap." Look, Logic and Em got skill, and they've proven so. If anything, their fanbase can be too much. White people really love white rappers, eh?
And all types of people really respect Mac Miller. From frat rap to philosophical lines to rapping about pussy to introspective lines about his drug habits, Mac gained a lot of respect from his peers. I know I said I can't write a lot for everyone, but I'll be unfair for Mac: he helped me better understand my own issues in life, namely any possible issues with my mental health and my thought process on certain destructive behaviors. He wasn't my favorite rapper, but I loved listening to his shit. This lovable goof sadly passed away in September 2018, and it was arguably the hardest a celebrity's death hit me. Partly because he was around my age, partly because he influenced my train of thought, as corny as some internet thugs believe that sounds. Thus, I did NOT pick one of the many lines that talk about him overdosing or dying before he turns 27. He will be sorely missed, by family, friends, and peers. Mac Miller is another example of a beautiful character arc, as much as the road was rocky and the end sucked. I really do hope people don't just see him as an ex-boyfriend of Ariana Grande. . . R.I.P Mac Miller. Don't do drugs, kids.
Don't do drugs. Future's influence on rap is something I probably cannot truly describe. From his cadence, to his subject matter, to his drug habits. He's seen as a figurehead for toxic masculinity as well as someone hiding his some sad lines behind rattling hi-hats and neat beats. From autotuning his voice in the early years to collabing with Drake to give us a great time to be alive, to getting credited for being on Father Stretch My Hand pt 2, Future proved himself a staple in 2010s rap. It was hard to NOT hear him this past decade. . . Wait, that wasn't Future on FSMH? He- . . .who? Desiigner? What?
The Weeknd gave his song to Drake for Take Care, but everyone fucking knows this is a Weeknd song ft. Drake. The Trilogy was some of his best work, and there some type of beauty in his tracks. It's an R&B dude, but his lyrics aren't soft. He's talking about railing chicks and cocaine and shit. None of that between-the-sheets beauty. He's fucking women on that island they got in their kitchens. And yet, he managed to break into the MAIN-mainsteam, getting kid awards for his drug songs. When will they learn, this ain't a fucking sing-a-long.
Originally, I picked the opening bars form Pusha Man off Acid Rap. It's one of my favorite projects from the 2010s (Can you tell I post on r/hiphopheads? Wanna watch this video essay on Tyler, the Creator and then bump some Griselda?) but, I think Same Durgs is a great metaphor. Chance talks about living a different life than an old friend, but it applies to some of his listeners. Many of us loved 10 Days and Acid Rap. But Chance can't be that forever. He grew up from the kid who got suspended for 2 weeks. For as much as I don't like The Big Day, he sounds happier. Plus, I'm not forced to listen to him.
So, Bobby wasn't the first, nor the last, but he's a great example of this distinct trend in rap. Guy puts out song and blows up for it. I'm talking this shit goes viral. Music video is him and the homies. He's talking about girls, women, cars, clothes, . . . oh yeah, and his crimes. Cops pull up, and they lock him up. Exhibit A. Exhibit B. Exhibit C is just going to be a song and not lead to an album. Bobby took a plea deal and after gracing us with the Shmoney Dance, was held up in Riker's for the rest of the 2010s. This line, and others, were used against him and his team. Fun fact: this was one of the things I remember before it got big. A few friends of friends were sharing the music video via FaceBook, and I never guessed it would've blown up more than the other rising rappers I watched. Also, shout out to Bobby for dancing better than the women in his Bobby Bitch Music video.
This one I was late on. I didn't hear Chief Keef until Mr. West put out the remix to Don't Like. But you can bet your ass I heard his influence on rap this decade. Drill music was what all the kids wanted to hear. And I'll admit, my best friend and I loved seeing kids our age making music. Joey dropped 1999, Chief Keef was half naked and toting guns, it was crazy seeing people who not only looked like me blowing up, but who were around my age. Keef's attitude would help push rap into a sound for the mid 10s and is still being heard today.
La Flame provided a good spark for music this decade. I'd argue he has his own lane in rap, mostly centered around his sound, but the sound is gonna get tired one day. . . and that day ain't tomorrow, that's for sure. With three solid projects, including the long awaited Astroworld, Travis has achieved what many dreamed of: Being on pre-game playlists for both white AND black people.
The past decade has given Push a chance to showcase that he is more than a duo-rapper. Good mixtapes, great albums, and a few nice slaps in the face of certain rappers. He raps about many topics, despite the memes about him only rapping about coke (although he still raps about it). Thank God for all the great music. Everything is Pusha T.
He bes that pretty motherfucker, repping Harlem while experimenting with different sounds in his raps. Making strong strides at all points of the 2010s, Rocky proved his staying power in hip hop and in fashion. Although he got a cocky attitude, he isn't afraid to shed light on what hurts him. Keep making music, Rocky, and I pray you find peace with all those around him who passed away.
Who wants that perfect love story anyway? Sucks when you eat some of your words as Queen B, BUT, Beyonce is more than a cheated-on wife of a rapper. She's her own person, her own icon, and despite the terrorizing fanbase, she's a role model to many fans and other artists. This decade saw a rise in people fighting back against bigotry, and while she's no Harriet Tubman, Beyonce carries herself with some respect, enough to be a dominant figure in black culture and sisterhood. Mad about the double feature? Oh well. Queen B can't trip up
The pre-games have never been the same. Two young brothers hit the scene mid 2010s and boy, has America loved ~Swae Lee~ these two. Perhaps not Black Beatles, but much more than "new age Kris Kross." I must say though, bad bitches ARE a type.
From Tity Boi to 2 Chainz, this dude managed to redebuted himself under a more advertisement friendly name (take notes, Mr. eXquire). And now, he don't need Wayne pouring out his soul on a chorus to be remembered. I will say, revisit all his features from the past decade. I wanted to use one of them as a quote.
Gucci's home and it's over for your Gucci clones. As you can tell, loads of people on this list influenced the rap playground this past decade, with Gucci doing the same. East Atlanta Santa spent years in jail (hasn't stopped him for rapping) and came out a new man, or at least, a man running up the charts. He definitely running now that his lean belly is gone.
Fat jokes from the early 10s aside, Ross really played a good role in rap music. BMF was big, I remember Diddy comparing him to Biggie ( yep ) and he always came through with good tracks. . . but then he rapped about drugging women. And on a lesser note, "Reeboks, I just do it," is a weird fuck up, man.
A strong player in terms of popularity, Detroit's biggest ass-man was able to give us quotables and showed some softer edges on tracks about family or being single.
TDE is more tHan Kendrick. In fact, tHere's many well versed rappers in the crew, and ScHoolboy Q managed to pusH Himself more into the spotligHt. Now, He needs drop a collab witH Rocky, because Hands of the WHeel is STILL my most played track.
Can you believe Born 2 Rap is his last album? After all these years, and here it is: The Game's last project. And still, people say he name drops too much, but at least he's in on the joke.
This is cheating, as this is a guest verse and NOT a Wayne song, but it is important. After bad business tactics and after putting an end to stuntin like his daddy, it took Wayne years to finally have Tha Carter V get released. Goes to show that sometimes, it's really the ones close to you that fuck you over. Top ten hip hop betrayals of all time. . .
Hot take: Nicki gets a lot of underserved hate, or at least, misdirected hate. She definitely deserves bad looks for some of her antics, or her support (lack of calling-out) of sexual deviant, but at the end of the day, she truly made some great songs. There's a ton of pop shit, but let's not undersell her role in the game. Also. . . obviously. . . That fucking verse on Kanye's Monster. I made the argument in a Daily Discussion thread before but. . . HOT TAKE: Nicki's verse on Monster is a top 5 verse of all time in rap, fuck you. While Wayne helped take her to the top, for her to stay relevant and to still sell records for the whole decade on her own is a great feat.
Yep, Jay and Kanye get a second line here. Watch the Throne is debated about being a classic or not. My take: Whether you like it or not, this album is iconic for its influence, or at least, how many people referenced watching the throne all these years after. Collab albums are not new. Collab albums with Jay Z are not new. Some are loved), some want to be forgotten) but, it's not everyday when Kanye can team up with his big brother. Well, at least it's not happening these days. But for the moment, it was dope watching the throne get in their zone.
Expecting a list of adlibs, right? Rap's favorite triplet done flowed their way to the top. Constantly in people's playlist, it took one rain drop, drop top, and the boys hit #1 on the charts, plus they're hit day time television. Argue who's the best, since it feels like the general consensus shifts around too much. It was Quavo when he was doing hooks and features, Offset when they hit #1, and now Takeoff for laying in the cut and always coming through.
Someone whose influence I think was overlooked a bit in the 10s. Three 6 Mafia's legacy was proven this decade through samples, interpolates, and features. However, Juicy J shone in a lot of places, such as here, spitting one of my most quoted lyrics of the past few years.
You know how people go out, party, drink, and turn their noses to water when water is gonna be the thing helping their asses? Yeah, that's Danny. People hear the voice and instantly turn it off, but we need some straying from the norm. Also, his music ain't that out there. It's not like Death Grips. Plus, ignoring Danny means you'll miss out on the best verse on 1Train. Yeah, I said it.
He grew up past the mixtape era of strong puns and punchlines. He also survived a hard rating on some of his early works. Because the Internet was dope and good lord Awaken My Love was beautiful. A talented man who can seemingly do it all. To be a bit controversial, I see him as this generation's Jamie Foxx. Sue me.
A figure in emo rap for all teens to look up to, Uzi was one of the artists to help push the genre in the last half of the decade, to the point where old heads got all sensitive about mumble rap. Who knew rapping about depression, sex, and suicide would top the charts?
Yep. Closing this out with Lil B. The exit is over here This decade, the internet went mainstream. As in, no longer was it something to do when you're bored with TV or the PS3/Xbox/Wii. This decade, every day we're using the internet, with several different social media accounts, blogs, news, etc. Videos of incidents are seen in an instant. At the very beginning of the 2010s, a young Brandon was blowing up on everyone's radar. He was on WorldStar cooking, he was putting curses on KD (which actually worked), he's been beefing with rappers and athletes, he's been pissing of Myke C-Town, he's been posting on Reddit, he was feature on Lil Wayne mixtapes, he's been dropping his own mixtapes like a maniac, hopping on songs with Mac & Gucci & 40, he's been creating memes before your mom knew what a meme was, etc. Him and Budden did what would become the norm before the norm became what it is now. Crazy to think. But yes, Lil B is getting recognition for his work. Based God truly came out and showcased what meme culture would bec- What now? . . . whoa, whoa whoa. . . Jay Electronica dropping his album?! Woah Well, that's the list. Tell me who I missed. Ask me why there's no Post Malone. Post better lines than the ones mentioned here. Honorable Mentions:
The real hot take here: Kendrick's verse on Big Sean's Control only an honorable mention? He called out his contemporaries and made it clear: He's gunning for number one. It's a good verse and it's even better that he called people out by name, but most of the list are people he's cool with.
I really want Joey to be better remembered. I really wanted to include him in the main list. He's actually in my top 5 of the decade.
Here's a link to that famous thread
Looking at her resume, Rihanna has a strong career for 2010 alone. Dance songs, pop songs, a dancehall(ish) track, rappers as features, features as rappers. Call her a bad bitch, a savage, just remember the game needs her. At least, her fans are begging four another album after the four year drought, so we need her to drop one more time
How the fuck y'all let this track NOT win video of the decade?
The original sad boi, the original "emo rap". Shout out to his comparison of himself to an orgasm.
Denzel is better than the memes from this track.
Cardi made big moves in the second half of the decade, arguably enough to be above HMs. She's more than the one hit wonder many detracts tried to pin her as. If she started a year earlier, she'd be up there. I really want her to strive in the 2020s as well.
R.I.P. Nipsey EDIT: I dun fucked up, and totally forgot Young Thug, who played a big part in the decade more than half this damn list. Please, share your favorite Thugger lines, I personally like his feature on Sacrifices the most but that's not his own track. Also, the obvious fuck up: Fuck Donald Trump. [link] [comments]  |
| Posted: 01 Mar 2020 01:39 PM PST |
| [FRESH ALBUM] - BONES & XAVIER WULF - BRACE Posted: 01 Mar 2020 09:47 PM PST |
| 8 year old girl dropping absolute bars over Roc Marciano's Snow Posted: 01 Mar 2020 10:55 AM PST |
| [LEAK] Thundercat - It Is What It Is Posted: 01 Mar 2020 10:48 AM PST It's out there.
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| [FRESH ALBUM] Drakeo The Ruler - FREE DRAKEO Posted: 01 Mar 2020 09:48 PM PST |
| Blueface announces release date for his next album "Find The Beat" Posted: 01 Mar 2020 12:05 PM PST |
| [DISCUSSION] Little Simz - GREY Area (1 Year Later) Posted: 01 Mar 2020 08:38 AM PST On this day, exactly one year ago, Little Simz released her third LP 'GREY Area', to rave reviews from critics and rap heads alike. How do you feel about this album an exact year later? Did it age well? Does it hold up? Is it as good as it was when it first dropped? [link] [comments]  |
| PUBLIC ENEMY Live at Los Aangeles Rally for Bernie Sanders Posted: 01 Mar 2020 05:26 PM PST |
| [FRESH ALBUM] Lofty305 - Echidna Posted: 01 Mar 2020 06:36 PM PST |
| NEW REASON AB-SOUL BOOGIE LEAK Posted: 01 Mar 2020 10:07 PM PST |
| [Discussion] DaBaby - Baby On Baby (One year later) Posted: 01 Mar 2020 06:26 AM PST Today marks a full year since the release of DaBaby's debut studio album, Baby On Baby. The home of some of my personal favorites from DaBaby, including "Pony", "Goin Baby", and of course the song that everyone can immediately pin DaBaby to, "Suge". [link] [comments]  |
| Posted: 01 Mar 2020 02:26 PM PST |
| Tech N9ne - B.I.T.C.H. (Feat. T-Pain) Posted: 01 Mar 2020 07:47 PM PST |
| Lil Baby - Forever feat. Lil Wayne Posted: 01 Mar 2020 12:59 PM PST |
| Posted: 01 Mar 2020 06:57 PM PST |
| [FRESH] SpaceGhostPurrp - SPACEGHOSTPUSSY RESPONSE (END OF ASAP ROCKY AKA ASAP SISSY PONY) Posted: 01 Mar 2020 06:16 AM PST |
| [FRESH VIDEO] JPEGMAFIA - The Making Of: How To Build A Relationship Posted: 01 Mar 2020 12:24 AM PST |
| [FRESH] Teejayx6 - Pajamas & Crocs Posted: 01 Mar 2020 08:12 AM PST |
| Buddy - Staircases (feat. Kendrick Lamar) [Prod. The Neptunes] Posted: 01 Mar 2020 11:08 AM PST |
| [FRESH ALBUM] Five Finger Posse - 5th Season Posted: 01 Mar 2020 08:46 PM PST |
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