[DISCUSSION] I wrote up a list (with a lengthy description for each song) of the most overlooked, underrated, slept on tracks from the whole year of 2016. If you're looking for new music to listen to, please check this out. - HipHop | HipHop Channel

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[DISCUSSION] I wrote up a list (with a lengthy description for each song) of the most overlooked, underrated, slept on tracks from the whole year of 2016. If you're looking for new music to listen to, please check this out. - HipHop

[DISCUSSION] I wrote up a list (with a lengthy description for each song) of the most overlooked, underrated, slept on tracks from the whole year of 2016. If you're looking for new music to listen to, please check this out. - HipHop


[DISCUSSION] I wrote up a list (with a lengthy description for each song) of the most overlooked, underrated, slept on tracks from the whole year of 2016. If you're looking for new music to listen to, please check this out.

Posted: 27 Nov 2016 12:30 PM PST

Edit: here's a Spotify playlist!

There has been a lot of music to digest this year, and with a wealth of high-profile releases, it's almost impossible to listen to everything, and things get glossed over. Don't worry, I've got you covered. I've been making a playlist all year with songs from almost every hip hop release this year (there's a lot of stuff I missed, especially near the beginning, but I think there's a lot of good stuff in here that either was ignored on HHH or not even posted). Here's the absolute best songs I've heard that you probably haven't.

Roughly in chronological order:

Daz Dillinger & Snoop Dogg - Have U Eva

It's unfortunate how mediocre this album ended up turning but, but there are a few good tracks. This one is pretty good, and probably has the best chorus out of anything on the album.

Domo Genesis - Dapper (feat. Anderson .Paak)

Probably gonna be one of the most popular songs on this list, but I haven't seen anybody talk about it since it dropped. I've never really been a big fan of Domo but I heard this on a playlist one day and was surprised to see who it was. The album is pretty good, and I think this Odd Future rapper still has a career ahead of him.

BROCKHAMPTON - Ben Carson

This is Kevin Abstract's rap group, and they are massively underrated. All-American Trash is one of the best projects by anyone this year, as it's 13 straight top notch quality tracks, with a ton of variety in genre, and some seriously unique sounding songs. Ben Carson is the first one, and it's easily the most under-the-radar rap banger of 2016. The verses are crisp, insanely quotable, the beat is weird enough to defy convention, and the bass is something else.

Sir Michael Rocks - Kilo On Craigslist

I honestly haven't listened to Populair or Part 2 since they've dropped. Honestly, they're middling at best. But this track is probably my favorite cut off of both, it's just some really solid hip hop, and the "kilo on Craigslist" line is undeniably catchy.

Royce Da 5'9 - Tabernacle

It's very arguable Layers should be on this list, as it's one of Royce's best in recent memory. But my personal favorite cut off the record is this strong Gospel-inspired stream-of-consciousness-esque fire. Definitely check out Layers as well, as it's a very strong track, with both Pusha T and Rick Ross delivering some great verses, and I struggled to figure out which one to include, but in the end the bars on here are so strong it's hard to deny it's spot.

Snoop Dogg - Super Crip

I'm trying to limit the artist count to one, but I consider groups as one separate artist, and besides, Snoop's a legend and this song is too good to be ignored. Snoop's output in the last few years has been back and forth, but there's always some gold on each project he's released. Last year's Bush blessed us with tracks like Peaches N Cream, and COOLAID is the same way. Super Crip sounds like classic Snoop, with an insanely good chorus. The instrumental is super catchy and each little background noise adds so much to the maximalist instrumentation. And when those drums kick in, it's undeniable that this song deserves to be on this list.

De La Soul - Here in After (feat. Damon Albarn of Gorillaz)

Yeah, it's another song that's pretty popular compared to the others. And the Anonymous Nobody... may not be the best hip hop album of 2016, but all around, it's an extremely enjoyable listen that serves as a full experience in the best way possible. The second-to-last track, may not be the best one, but it's such a smooth blending of De La's style and Albarn's instrumentation, I definitely had to choose it. The bridge that happens around the halfway mark is one of the most subtle and yet most impressive of the year, and as great as the outro after it is, I almost feel like this would make for a better closer to the album, because it's just so well done.

Ka - Just

The Night's Gambit is undeniably one of the best hip hop albums of the last few years. That said, Honor Killed the Samurai is Ka's newest effort and it's almost as good as the 2013 record. "Just" is the lead single from the album, and it features a winding synth instrumental with Ka just spitting bars upon bars. He's one of the most lyrical rappers out there today, and has been providing the underground with impressive verses for years. Just is perhaps the most bombastic song on Honor Killed the Samurai, but that doesn't detract from its greatness.

Iamsu! - Fly Guy (feat. Show Banga)

Iamsu! might never have the fame he captured with Sage the Gemini on Gas Pedal, but that doesn't mean he has stopped serving us bangers. His 2016 album was mostly forgettable, but Fly Guy is one seriously high-energy testament to his ability to deliver hype.

GTA - Little Bit of This (feat. Vince Staples)

For some reason, unorthodox electronic producers and Vince Staples work together like bread and butter. His work with Flume and James Blake may be some of his best, and it's clear he's not gonna slow down with the features anytime soon. This time, he's collaborated with a Miami producer duo called GTA, and they're not just any EDM duo - GTA's album delivers with features from Iamsu!, Tunji Ige, and Tinashe, with their style incorporating the best of EDM while also avoiding a lot of the sounds that make the genre so stale. Little Bit of This features some seriously compelling percussion with a lot of great little sounds sprinkled throughout the whole thing, from sirens, to squealing tires, to a perfectly-timed frog croak before the chorus.

Audio Push - Play Action (feat. Hit Boy)

Yes, these are the guys that did Teach Me How to Jerk. Yes, you should give them a chance. 90951 is the other zip code album, for those who are thinking of Jay Rock, and Play Action is easily the strongest track on the whole record. It's a dark, lowkey banger with some seriously sick lines ("Told my accountant I can not cut back on my spending, Checks clearing, used to shop on clearance, TJ Max") and a drum pattern that makes the whole song. It's unsurprising that this album got zero attention but please give this one a listen, it's been one of my favorite songs to throw on repeat.

Slaves - Consume or Be Consumed (feat. Mike D)

No, this isn't the post-hardcore band under the same name. Instead, this is a punk duo from Kent, England. I saw them open for Wolf Alice (I believe? I don't really remember), and they were pretty good. I noticed their new album dropped and I was surprised to see a song with the one and only Mike D! The duo manage to deliver some pretty good verses, and while Mike D's verse is short, it's still dope.

Apollo Brown & Skyzoo - Basquiat on the Draw (feat. WestSideGunn & Conway)

Armed with a Jay Z sample (From Rick Ross' 3 Kings), Basquiat on the Draw delivers some classic hip hop (it's good to hear scratching again!) from Apollo Brown and Skyzoo. WestSideGunn and Conway deliver some fire verses also, and what more is there to say? There's also a sample of Basquiat interview that really adds to the track, and I would just say give this one a listen.

DJ Mustard - Been A Long Time (feat. YG & Ty Dolla $ign)

I'm sure we're all pretty tired of DJ Mustard (I know I am), but he released an album this year, and it's pretty solid. The opening track, Been A Long Time, is nothing short of a banger, and the trio delivers some serious chemistry. It's one of the only songs I keep finding myself revisiting on this album, because it's just so replayable.

SiR - Cadillac Dreams (feat. Big K.R.I.T.)

The whole world still sleeps on KRIT, unsurprisingly, but he keeps on delivering the fire. Cadillac Dreams is a collaboration with California R&B singer SiR, and the result is buttery smooth. SiR is definitely one to watch out for, as he lies somewhere between the convention and perfect of Anderson .Paak and the experimentation and oddity of Lance Skiiiwalker. KRIT comes in at the end and does his thing and the whole world is better for it.

Swet Shop Boys - Shottin

Swet Shop Boys is Heems' side project with MC Riz and Redinho, and their newest effort, Cashmere, is a seriously great album lost in a sea of seriously great releases. On Shottin, political bars are delivered over a pushy beat, and you're really unsure if you should dance or ponder, especially with lines like "I'm from cop-killer Queens, kill a cop and it's fine, I read pigs are haram in the book that's divine". Either way, it's a hell of a song.

Emeli Sandé - Garden (feat. Jay Electronica & Áine Zion)

It's a pop/R&B song, but Emeli Sandé joins the echelon of high class and quality singers like Tinashe and Janelle Monáe. On Garden, she enlists the help of legendary hide-and-seek (lmao) rapper, Jay Electronica. You spend the whole song waiting for his appearance, and that's great, but I'll be damned if the rest of the song isn't extremely strong as well. It's probably the best R&B singer & rapper collab this year besides Alicia Keys' Blended Family with A$AP Rocky.

E-40 - On One (feat. AD)

In case you didn't know, E-40 dropped a 42 track double album a few weeks ago, and it's long as hell but oh god is it fire. On One is a single from the second half, and it's absolute fire. Seriously. E-40 brings the hype, and it's impossible to deny the energy this guy has despite nearing the age of 50. The chorus is one of my favorites of the year, and the beat is just insane. Definitely check out this and the whole project, there's features from Jay Rock, Gucci Mane, and more.

Lance Skiiiwalker - Could It Be

It's hard to put a song from a TDE signee on this list, but I gotta say, the deep cuts on this album have been pretty slept on. Could It Be is a dark, gloomy track that takes a sudden final shift halfway through that shouldn't work, but just does. Lance is all over the place, but it's in a good way, and in the second half, he's pretty much only accompanied by layered background vocals and a constant drum beat, closing the song with those vocals cutting off.

Jay Prince - Father, Father

Following in the footsteps and inspiration of singy-songy rappers like Goldlink, Jay Prince delivers it with a twist - over some classic looped soul production. The opening unraveling into the loop that's used throughout the track is pretty magical, and the accompanying piano is dissonant yet positive. And when the chorus finally kicks in, it's just bliss.

Owen Bones - Where On Earth (feat. The Cool Kids)

Before I write this, I gotta say you seriously gotta check out this guy's album Dive Club. There's some killer features over his signature light industrial style, and the whole thing is just phenomenal. At least check out the track Mach One with Tunji Ige & lil aaron or Narcosis with Saba. As for the track, it's amazing to hear The Cool Kids again, and they fit perfectly on this darker track. The decision to cut the track in half and shock the listener with the next verse is a smart one, and the production is normal enough for casual listening but reveals a lot of you take the time to dissect it.

Tkay Maidza - Carry On (feat. Killer Mike)

Yeah, it's another pop song. However, the Australian singer tries her own at rapping alongside hip hop legend Killer Mike, and the result is pretty great. Her vocal style is a marriage of something like Charli XCX and M.I.A, while also retaining her own identity. Killer Mike delivers a short verse, but it breaks up the song and it's definitely welcome. All in all, it bangs, and that's what matters.

lil aaron - 4 MORE DRINKS/PINK FENTY SLIDES

A two part song with one of the best beat switches of the year, 4 MORE DRINKS/PINK FENTY SLIDES is the epitome of what lil aaron stands for: Drugs, drinks, and girls. If that sounds familiar, I'm not surprised. However, this album and song are anything but familiar - the Los Angeles rapper has taken the druggy auto tuned style of Travi$ Scott and turned up the rock to 11, and the result is something that's at the least fascinating, and at the best, the absolute next best thing. Heavy in atmosphere, 4 MORE DRINKS is doused in braggadocio self-aware self-loathing ("I'd rather kill myself than ever go back home") over a classic drum pattern laced with some signature Travi$ guitars and some wobbly synths. PINK FENTY SLIDES, however, kicks in, and the synths are bursting to the max. Then, the drums come, and momentum is turned up, and the wobbly synth appears from the first half, and the song finishes how it started, with the roar of an engine.

Z-Ro - I Can (fear. Mike D)

"My neighbors are white but I act like I still live in the hood, They say I shouldn't ball so much, but I feel like I should" is the perfect summary of this song. Z-Ro is back with a project called Legendary, and while the album itself may not be legendary (it's still pretty good though), this song is almost there. With another impromptu and brief feature from Mike D, Z-Ro delivers some fire.

KXNG Crooked - Dem People (feat. Xzibit & SAS)

KXNG Crooked dropped two albums in 2016, and this song is from the second one. Beginning with a bouncy yet hard instrumental, you know you're in for a treat, and yes does it hit hard. Contrasting Crooked and Xzibit's spoken word bridge with SAS' smooth singing, it's a hell of a track. "You probably think you're walking through a zombie apocalypse, Imma be a tour guide here, grab these binoculars", KXNG raps over this surprisingly political track.

december. - ILLEGAL

SoundCloud rappers Matt McGhee and Miles Meraki are "december.", and while it sounds like standard SoundCloud fare, there's something about this track that keeps me coming back. Maybe it's the infectious chorus ("that's illegal!"), maybe it's the hard-hitting instrumental, maybe it's the way each rapper rides on the beat. I still can't figure it out, but like the album cover shows, it encapsulates that blur of night driving, perhaps doing some stuff that's slightly illegal.

Adam Vida - I'm Juiced (Tommy Pickles)

Here's a hot take: you're gonna hear this everywhere. Joining the ranks of rappers like Aminé defining the new wave of party rock, Adam Vida drops some lighthearted yet hard bars over a simple yet infectious beat, and absolutely kills the chorus. It's poppy yet veteran, and his brand of rap should attract both casual listeners and longtime hip hop fans.

Kevin Abstract - Papercut

Another semi-popular song, but I think it needs to be heard. I had a hard time figuring out which Kevin Abstract song I would pick, because his debut album, American Boyfriend: A Suburban Love Story, is brimming to the rim with good ones. Papercut is perhaps one of the best example of his style and defiance of genre, and it's one of the album's standout tracks. It's more on the hip hop side than most songs on the album, yet it retains a deep rooting in indie and pop music, especially near the end. Whatever genre it is, it's lines like "The hardest part of my day is wishing I was fucking straight", that provide a somber recollection of the past as Abstract struggles with living as a bisexual.

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[FRESH] Tyler, the Creator - Batman (unreleased)

Posted: 27 Nov 2016 11:04 AM PST

Lil Uzi Vert announces LuvIsRage 2

Posted: 27 Nov 2016 10:07 AM PST

https://twitter.com/LILUZIVERT/status/802936715384123392

Y'all want me too drop the real one before the Album 🔥® LuvIsRage 2

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The beat for "Mercy" by Kanye West was originally supposed to go to Kid Ink, but he passed on it.

Posted: 27 Nov 2016 12:30 PM PST

Mike Will Made It survived a hit n run, thanks Mercedes

Posted: 27 Nov 2016 03:53 PM PST

SEABS Radio Thread EP.1

Posted: 27 Nov 2016 03:02 PM PST

Thanks for stopping by for the first episode of SEABS radio, hosted by Vince Staples.


The episode is now over


The Format is: Artist - Title

Link Priority = Youtube, Spotify, Soundcloud


  1. Childish Gambino - Me and your Mama
  2. Mobb Deep - The Start of Your Ending
  3. Capone-N-Noreaga - T.O.N.Y. (Top Of New York)
  4. Missy Elliot & Da Brat - Sock It 2 Me
  5. j.robb - trabajo 6x
  6. Maxo Kream - Cell Boomin (ft. Father)
  7. ScHoolboy Q - Dope Dealer (ft. E-40)
  8. 24hrs - Gucci Flame/ 12:Am In The 6
  9. Big Sean - Bounce Back
  10. Pharrell Williams - Maybe (Remix)
  11. Wavves - King of the Beach
  12. Brandy - I Wanna Be Down
  13. Billy Joel - Movin' Out
  14. Juelz Santana - You Oughta Know (ft. Cam'ron)
  15. Frank Ocean - Nights
  16. James Blake - Timeless (ft. Vince Staples)
  17. Novelist - Girls Around The World
  18. Lil B - I'm God
  19. Lil Wayne - Mo Fire
  20. Solange - F.U.B.U (ft. The-Dream & BJ the Chicago Kid)
  21. Anderson .Paak - Might Be
  22. Shawty Lo - Foolish
  23. The Cardigans - Choke
  24. The Specials - Ghost Town
  25. Kali Uchis - Call Me
  26. Ol' Dirty Bastard - I Can't Wait
  27. Billie Holiday - My Man (Toro Y Moi Remix)
  28. Young Thug - Hercules
  29. PARTYNEXTDOOR - Only U
  30. The Garden - All Smiles Over Here :)
  31. Clipse - Mr. Me Too (ft. Pharrell Williams)
  32. Danny Brown - Pneumonia
  33. Kodak Black - Hollywood
  34. Jay Rock - Vice City (ft. Black Hippy)
  35. Soulja Boy Tell Em' & Bow Wow - Louis Vuitton
  36. M.I.A - Lovalot
  37. Suicidal Tendencies - Institutionalized

Vince's Socials:

I need everybody to go home, you probably at home cus you don't got unlimited data on your phone provided... But I need everybody to stop what they doing, just turn around and think of the life you live; think about what you ate today, think about what you drunk today... And understand you can always do better... You can always do better. I'm proud of you, all smiles.

 

Shamless plug

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[FRESH] Lil Uzi Vert // Luv Is Rage 2 Snippet

Posted: 27 Nov 2016 08:03 PM PST

[FRESH] LIL YACHTY - 2AM (PROD. BY BYOU)

Posted: 27 Nov 2016 04:06 PM PST

SUNDAY GENERAL DISCUSSION - NOVEMBER 27TH 2016

Posted: 27 Nov 2016 11:52 AM PST

what items do you refuse to compromise your standards on when shop

Go see Mr. Strange :)

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J. Cole - I Get Up

Posted: 27 Nov 2016 01:56 PM PST

Khalid - Location

Posted: 27 Nov 2016 11:16 AM PST

Smooth Sunday. Post your smooth tracks here.

Posted: 27 Nov 2016 08:49 AM PST

No shooters in here. Give us that smooth shit to vibe to today.

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Toro Y Moi - That Night (feat. Kool A.D. & SAFE)

Posted: 27 Nov 2016 03:09 PM PST

Birdman disses Lil Wayne by buying million dollar toilet w/ weezy's $.

Posted: 27 Nov 2016 07:05 PM PST

DJ Khaled - We Takin' Over

Posted: 27 Nov 2016 01:09 PM PST

Ka - Conflicted

Posted: 27 Nov 2016 03:05 PM PST

Black Hippy - Say Wassup

Posted: 27 Nov 2016 08:26 PM PST

Lil Uzi Vert - Right Now

Posted: 27 Nov 2016 08:14 AM PST

Best Verse, Week 88 - De La Soul

Posted: 27 Nov 2016 01:09 PM PST

The Native Tongues and Long Island's very own De La Soul is this week's best verse!


Background: De La Soul is an American hip hop trio formed in 1987 on Long Island, New York. The group is best known for their eclectic sampling, quirky lyrics, and their contributions to the evolution of the jazz rap and alternative hip hop subgenres. The members are Posdnuos, Dave and Maseo. The three formed the group in high school and caught the attention of producer Prince Paul with a demo tape of the song "Plug Tunin'". With its playful wordplay, innovative sampling, and witty skits, the band's debut album, 3 Feet High and Rising, has been called "a hip hop masterpiece."

It is the band's biggest commercial success to date, with their subsequent albums selling progressively less, despite receiving high praise from critics. They were influential in the early stages of rapper/actor Mos Def's career, and are a core part of the Spitkicker collective. They are the second longest standing Native Tongues Posse group, after the Jungle Brothers. In 2006, the group won a Grammy for their collaboration with Gorillaz on the single "Feel Good Inc."

In early 2015, they announced plans to release a Kickstarter-funded upcoming 9th studio album And the Anonymous Nobody in September 2015; it was released on August 26, 2016. The album tracks are said to be the result of multiple improvised jam sessions. The album also features guest appearances from artists such as Damon Albarn, Little Dragon, David Byrne and 2 Chainz.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_La_Soul_discography


Past 20 Week Results:

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Week 67 - Rick Ross - "Devil in a New Dress" - verse 3
Week 68 - 50 Cent - "Many Men" - verse 3
Week 69 - Big K.R.I.T - "1Train" - verse 7
Week 70 - Royce da 5'9" - "Wishin" - verse 3
Week 71 - Action Bronson - "Red Dot Music" - verse 2
Week 72 - Big Pun - "Twinz(Deep Cover '98)" - verse 1
Week 73 - 2 Chainz - "Mercy" - verse 4
Week 74 - Young Jeezy - "Seen It All" - verse 1
Week 75 - Denzel Curry - "Ultimate" - verse 2
Week 76 - Cam'Ron - "Down and Out" - verse 3
Week 77 - Isaiah Rashad - "Heavenly Father" - verse 3
Week 78 - Fabolous - "Wolves in Sheep Clothing" - verse 1
Week 79 - YG - "Twist My Fingaz" - verse 1
Week 80 - Gucci Mane - "Steady Mobbin" - verse 2
Week 81 - Mick Jenkins - "P's & Q's" - verse 1
Week 82 - Curren$y - "Airborne Aquarium" - verse 1
Week 83 - Meek Mill - "Dreams and Nightmares Intro" - verse 1
Week 84 - Killer Mike - "A Christmas Fucking Miracle" - verse 2
Week 85 - Future - "Codeine Crazy" - verse 2
Week 86 - El-P - "The Last Huzzah REMIX" - verse 5
Week 87 - Kodak Black - "No Flockin" - verse 1

Please provide links with your votes!


Post your favorite De La verses here!

remember just because a verse may be iconic that does necessarily mean it's their best verse.

And as usual taking suggestions for next week


Spotify playlist for /r/HHH's Best Verse of 2015

Spotify playlist for top 5 best verses for every week!

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Pimp C feat. Drake & Bun B - What Up

Posted: 27 Nov 2016 02:44 PM PST

Best Beats 2.0, Week 18 - Hit-Boy

Posted: 27 Nov 2016 01:06 PM PST

G.O.O.D. Music's very own Hit Boy is this week's best Beats!


Background: Hit-Boy is an American record producer and hip hop recording artist from Fontana, California. In May 2011, Hollis had signed a deal with Kanye West's GOOD Music production wing, known as Very G.O.O.D. Beats and left the label after his contract expired in June 2013. In December 2012, it was revealed he had signed a recording contract with Interscope Records, and subsequently founded his own record label imprint, Hits Since '87.[1] He is perhaps best known for his production catalog, which includes "Niggas in Paris" by Jay-Z and Kanye West, "Drop the World" by Lil Wayne and Eminem, and the GOOD Music single "Clique", all of which have been certified platinum or higher by the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hit-Boy


IMPORTANT TIPS BEFORE VOTING:

  1. All Votes must provide a one-two sentence justification for it to be counted.

  2. Remember to provide links!

  3. One vote per comment as well.

  4. Before voting please look into listen to some of the Hit Boy's best beats and lesser known beats to ensure we are not voting on popularity:


Past Week Results:

Week 1 - Kanye West - "Kanye West - Power"
Week 2 - J Dilla - "J Dilla - Time: The Donut of Heart"
Week 3 - Metro Boomin - "Travis Scott - Sky Fall"
Week 4 - Madlib - "Freddie Gibbs - Thuggin'"
Week 5 - Just Blaze - "Jay Electronica - Exhibit C"
Week 5 - Dr. Dre - "Dr. Dre - Still Dre"
Week 6 - RZA - "GZA - 4th Chamber"
Week 7 - Noah "40" Shebib - "Drake - Tuscan Leather"
Week 8 - Pharrell Williams/The Neptunes - "Clipse - Grindin"
Week 9 - DJ Premier - "Royce da 5'9 - Boom"
Week 10 - Zaytoven - "Future - Oooooh"
Week 11 - The Alchemist - "Mac Miller - Red Dot Music"
Week 12 - Mike Will Made It - "Future - Move That Dope"
Week 13 - DJ Dahi - "Kendrick Lamar - Money Trees"
Week 14 - Knxwledge - "Kendrick Lamar - Momma"
Week 15 - Timbaland - "JAY Z - Big Pimpin'"
Week 16 - Swizz Beatz - "DMX - Ruff Ryders Anthem"
Week 17 - Flying Lotus - "Flying Lotus - Never Catch Me"


Post your favorite Hitboy beats (with links) here!

remember just because a beat may be iconic that does necessarily mean it's their best beat.

taking suggestions for next week

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Questlove Rates Autocorrect, Cupping, and 90s Hip Hop

Posted: 27 Nov 2016 10:29 PM PST

Ludacris - Move Bitch

Posted: 27 Nov 2016 10:37 AM PST

[FRESH] Marv Won, Royce Da 5'9" & Daylyt - Suicide Squad

Posted: 27 Nov 2016 12:59 PM PST