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Daily Discussion Thread 09/14/2019 - HipHop

Daily Discussion Thread 09/14/2019 - HipHop

Daily Discussion Thread 09/14/2019

Posted: 14 Sep 2019 10:13 AM PDT

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[Discussion] - Kid Cudi - Man on the Moon: End of Day (10 Years Later)

Posted: 14 Sep 2019 12:08 PM PDT

10 years ago today, the debut album by arguably the most influential figure in modern rap music was released.

Unique beyond his adversaries, Cudi has successfully released a debut album that was ahead of its time.

Thoughts?

Memories?

Questions?

Feel free to comment below.

Here is my Final High School Research Paper that I did on Kid Cudi in High school, if you're interested.

The Underrated and Overlooked Impact of the Man on the Moon

Abstract

The first thoughts that may come to mind when reading this paper would be the uncommon contents of the subject at hand. The majority of papers may cover topics of crime, politics, racism, etc. This paper however, is not about a broad topic or seemingly important public issue. This paper is about a person, a person by the name of Scott Mescudi (more commonly known by his stage name Kid Cudi). The primary motivation for writing about such an unusual and uncommon topic is not only to stand out from the majority of other essays but to also challenge myself as a writer. Kid Cudi's impact on music in general is so unique and original that it deserves to be recognized. Kid Cudi is one of the most important, if not the most important hip-hop artist of the last decade. Everything from his lyrics, his style, his production, has been excessively prominent in hip-hop music for the past 10 years or so, even spread into pop music to a minor degree. The main issue here is that despite all that he has done for the hip-hop genre, he has not received the praise or attention that he so rightfully deserves. In fact, outside of hardcore hip-hop heads, most people, including a large portion of hip-hop fans, have not even bothered to listen to his music or acknowledge his achievements outside of his first few hits. From news articles, to interviews, to his music in general, I have used as many relevant sources as I could find to prove that Kid Cudi's impact in hip-hop culture is not only real, but nothing short of extraordinary. Many of today's biggest hip-hop artists such as Kanye West, Travis Scott, Kendrick Lamar, Childish Gambino and Asap Rocky, and even R&B artists such as Tinashe and Jhene Aiko, among many others, look up to Kid Cudi as a major influence on their music and even their overall lives.

Outline

I. Man on the Moon 0.1: Life before the birth of ​A KID NAMED CUDI

A. The Childhood of Scott Mescudi

B. The Miseducation of Scott Mescudi

C. The Humble Beginnings of Kid Cudi

II. Man on the Moon 0.5: ​A KID NAMED CUDI ​ and​ 808s and Heartbreak

A. The Mixtape that Started It All

B. The Man that Gave Him a Chance

C. The Album that Forever Changed the Meaning of Hip-Hop

III. Man on the Moon 1.5: The True Beginning for the Man called Kid Cudi

A. The Journey of the Man on the Moon officially Launches

B. The Rise of the Man on the Moon

C. Man on the Moon II: The Journey Continues in The Legend of Mr. Rager

IV. Man on the Moon: 2.5: The Band called WZRD, The Album on Fire, The Ill-Fated Project

A. The Collaboration that Went Unnoticed

B. The Album that Found its Own Meaning in the Universe.

C. The Project that Lead to the Unfinished Journey of the Man on the Moon

V. Man on the Moon III: The End of the Man on the Moon

A. The Project that Accidentally Committed Suicide

B. The Welcomed Return of Scott Ramon Seguro Mescudi

C. The Beginning of A New Era

VI. Man on the Moon IV: Epilogue: The Legacy of the Man on the Moon

A. The Overlooked and Underrated Impact of the Man On The Moon

Body

I. Man on the Moon 0.1: Life before the birth of ​A KID NAMED CUDI

The very early life of Scott Mescudi was not very complicated but still rather troubling. For a short time, he lived in a particularly bad neighborhood. For most of his prepubescent childhood however, lived in a suburban household with his several siblings and two parents. The house and the neighborhood were pretty nice as far as living standards go but like many people, Mescudi's family were in a bittersweet situation. Despite the nice home and neighborhood, his family couldn't afford much outside of bills and food apparently. According to an interview, his family couldn't just buy expensive things like everyone else could and generally struggled to make ends meet. Not only that, but his father had an apparently distant and sporadic relationship with the rest of the family. Issues such as this could have been catalysts for the apparent rocky relationship between his parents. If the family had a chance to be whole again we could never know due to the tragic event that changed Scott's life forever. The death of his father.

After the death of his father, Scott's personality and psyche became rapidly warped into a maddenning dive towards depression. Fortunately for him, with the help of his mother, he discovered his love and appreciation for music. While music did become the outlet he needed to express himself in the most productive way possible, that doesn't necessarily mean that his life automatically took an upswing towards happiness. As a teenager he was very and problematic as a person and in his actions. From smoking, to drinking, to wilding out, Kid Cudi's teen years were nothing short of eventful. He got expelled from school, had run-ins with the law, dropped out of college after one year, he even tried to join the navy. After a seemingly endless string of nonsensical events, it was only when he left Ohio for New York did he finally begin to realize what he truly wanted out of his very strange life.

Cudi did not immediately encounter success upon his sudden move to New York back in 2004. In fact when he moved there, he only came with what he described as a decent demo and about $500. For the first five months in New York, he couldn't even get a job. He knew no one there, he didn't really know the city, he was just guessing basically while he was living with his uncle. Speaking of his uncle, his impatience for Cudi to get on his feet prompted him to kick him out of the house, with him dying only about two years later. According to Cudi, he wouldn't even be Cudi if it wasn't for his uncle. Down on his luck and nowhere to go, Cudi worked a series of odd jobs until he found a stable one at a BAPE store. It was at this BAPE store that he met Kanye West, the man that would eventually change his life forever.

II. Man on the Moon 0.5: ​A KID NAMED CUDI ​ and​ 808s and Heartbreak

A Kid Named Cudi was Kid Cudi's first ever professionally released project and the only one released by an independent record label. This album was made by Cudi with collaborations from producers Dot da Genius, Crookers, Emile, The Kickdrums, Nosaj Thing and Kanye's then manager, Plain Pat. What made this mixtape stand-out from anything else out at the time was it's sound. The way the album is produced incorporates classic and unique samples with clean production that presents itself in a way that it doesn't try to emulate or mimic any of it's inspirations but rather embraces them and merges them with it's own unique sound. Initially, the mixtape would have gone fairly unnoticed if it wasn't for it's lead single, "Day n' Nite". "Day n' Nite" was originally unpopular when it came out but through it's rapid emergence through night clubs, stoner parties, and Myspace, it quickly became a mainstream hit. Not only that but it's popularity skyrocketed the song to it's peak of #3 on the Billboard Hot 100 chart, went on to achieve a 5x platinum certification from the RIAA, and attracted the attention of Kanye West through Plain Pat.

Kanye immediately makes it his mission to meet and take Kid Cudi under his wing as his protege. This union is almost a little too convenient as his previous meeting with him at a BAPE store 2 year prior made the entire experience seem more surreal. Not long after they reunite, Cudi is signed to Kanye's G.O.O.D. Music record label. He is instantly prompted to take part in the production of Kanye's very own mentor, Jay-Z's then newest album, The Blueprint 3. Soon after Cudi suddenly gets the opportunity to take part in producing and writing several tracks on Kanye's then newest album 808s and Heartbreak.

With Kanye's popularity and Cudi's style 808's and Heartbreak made huge shockwaves throughout the music industry when it is released. This album that ventured into territory that music didn't even know existed. From it's trippy melodies, deep lyrics, and futuristic synths, this album took Hip-Hop in a new direction that it didn't even know it wanted to go in. The gangsta, trap, and snap rap sub-genres that took the 2000's by storm started to look far less appealing and impressive in comparison to Kanye and Cudi's ambitious project, that arguably started in the infamous Graduation vs. Curtis sales battle. Which put up Kanye's spiritual and synth heavy masterpiece against 50 Cent's repetitive and unoriginal gangsta tracks. Kanye's victory led hip-hop to a place where an album like 808's and Heartbreak could be accepted. A place where hip-hop could be more than it was at the time.

III. Man on the Moon 1.5: The True Beginning for the Man called Kid Cudi

After the explosive success of 808's and Heartbreak with it eventually selling nearly 2 million copies and singles Heartless and Love Lockdown achieving monstrous success, an entirely new wave of hip-hop artists emerged. A wave whose origins do not stem from the previously standard gangsta mode but from places of deep emotional and spiritual pain. Some of the time's and even current artists such as Kendrick Lamar, Childish Gambino, B.o.B, Frank Ocean and especially Drake, all received much of their inspiration for making music from this album. Now with a legacy, influence and prospects of becoming hip-hop's next big thing, Kid Cudi had to redirect his attention to his own project, one that would cement him as a sole inspiration in hip-hop culture, Man on the Moon: The End of Day. Cudi's official debut album was very experimental to say the least with it's unholy but amazing clash of 70's esque vibes and futuristic synths and an inventive story spanning five acts but nonetheless proved it was an amazing and revolutionary project

With its debut at #4 with 104,000 units sold in its first week, and the second single,​"Pursuit of Happiness" eventually matching the success of ​"Day n' Nite" ​ along with the 2x platinum hit "Soundtrack 2 My Life", ​ It's safe to say that Kid Cudi has become hip-hop's next big artist. After the success of the album, Cudi started to become involved in many collaborations with many other artists. Future hip-hop successes such as Travis Scott, Logic, and Lil' Yachty cited heavy influence from this album. It seemed as if Kid Cudi had nowhere to go but up...until Drake came on to the scene. Fresh off of ​"Degrassi: The Next Generation", ​ Drake is a Canadian rapper, who was similar in context to Kid Cudi when it came to music. However,unlike Cudi's unpredictable and weird nature throughout his works, Drake's approach was a lot closer to a safer, R&B and pop oriented version of Cudi's music, an approach that posed a serious threat to Cudi's potential as the next generation's foremost leader in hip hop music.

Such a threat was far bigger than anyone could expect as Drake's debut album "Thank Me Later" debuted with an explosive 447,100 copies sold in its first week, destroying the sales of Kid Cudi's album 4 times over. Despite, this unexpected event, Cudi continues on to the release of the sequel to his first album, "Man on the Moon II, The Legend of Mr. Rager". His sophomore album takes a darker but far more cohesive departure from his debut album. Whereas the first album covered its issues in a 70's esque layer of bliss, this album covers them in a far more aware and focused way. With the fame garnered from his first album and now solidified fanbase, Cudi receives the biggest release week of his career. Despite his impressive 169,000 copy debut for his sophomore album, it is nowhere near the total of Drake's debut album. As a result, Kid Cudi's potential as the front runner of the new generation of rappers is now anything but dead as from here on out, his popularity experiences a downhill turn whereas Drake had won what used to be Cudi's destiny to become hip-hop's next big superstar.

IV. Man on the Moon: 2.5: The Band called WZRD, The Album on Fire, The Ill-Fated Project

After the utterly ridiculous success of Drake's first two albums completely destroyed the impressiveness of his sales and ultimately solidified Kid Cudi's commercial peak to be stuck in 2009, Cudi decided that he should venture into far more experimental pursuits than previously expected, including halting the entire process of making Man on the Moon III. He and Dot da Genius decide to form the short-lived alternative rock duo, WZRD. Apparently, Cudi was actually intoxicated during the entirety of the Man on the Moon series because as it turns out, he had writer's block for 5 months during the creation of the WZRD album. The album itself wasn't a disaster but it did put an end to Cudi's 3-project streak of unconventional masterpieces. Unlike his first three projects, this album tried to become something it wasn't ready for and as a result, wasn't far beyond average if not at average in terms of overall quality. Whether or not this album could have been successful is not known as his label under-shipped this album with only about 55,000 copies due to their lack of faith in Cudi's ability to sell records. Motivation for the duo to make more projects most likely wasn't much as they broke up shortly afterwards.

After the ill-fated rock-centric idea that was the band called WZRD, Cudi decided to move forward with his 3rd solo studio album. Unlike the first two, this album was not a continuation of the Man on the Moon series but rather created with the intention of it having its own identity. The project was subsequently named Indicud. Unlike the first two which were solely about depressing and negative topics, Indicud is a far more positive album that doesn't try to relate to people with problems but rather actively tries to uplift them to be more overall positive people. The album itself was far more random and strange than its predecessors. Despite the mind blowing production, and melodies, it was not very focused but somehow not very messy at the same time. It manages Cudi's third best overall debut with over 139,000 copies sold in the first week. While at first it may seem as if Cudi has a chance to rise again, those dreams are shattered when the album takes several years just to barely get a gold certification. Not only that, but was also his last solo outing with the support of Kanye West and G.O.O.D. Music, making it even harder for him to achieve success.

The impressive first week of Indicud must have helped increase his interest back in the Man on the Moon series because his fourth album became his latest and sadly final installment in the series. Originally meant to be the prequel to the now shelved Man on the Moon III, this extended play turned album is now the project known as Satellite Flight: The Journey to Mother Moon. Unlike his other albums, this album is what was before thought impossible and unexpected of Cudi. This album was average. It is average in its fairly basic production, forgettable upon listen effect, and overall boring, dragged out tone. In fact this album wasn't even average, it was mediocre at best. Everything about this album was generic and therefore a huge disappointment in regards to everything that Kid Cudi has put out before. Not only that but it became Cudi's first unsuccessful solo album, despite its top 5 debut with a first weekend of only 84,000 copies sold, which dropped 90 percent in its second weekend, along with zero singles or charted songs, and is the first Cudi album that's not even close to receiving an actual certification.

V. Man on the Moon III: The End of the Man on the Moon

If you thought that the misery ended here then you haven't seen anything yet. Cudi's lowest point in his career came a little over a year after Satellite Flight: The Journey to Mother Moon. This would be the infamous rock bottom point of Kid Cudi's career in which it would be titled as nothing other than Speedin Bullet 2 Heaven. Aside from the fact that Cudi himself said that it was basically a farewell to all the negative things in his life, the album itself……..saying that it was a mess would be an understatement. The album was such a catastrophe of a project that it became universally agreed upon as Cudi's worst ever project. Not only that but it was also the worst charting album (peaked at #36) and worst performing album (31,000 lifetime sales) of his career. It was at this point that Cudi decided that the journey of the Man on the Moon had come to an end, that he was no longer going to be that deeply tortured person that he was at the beginning of his career. The only good news about this is that this is truly the point in which Cudi had nowhere to go but up.

Despite the atrocities of his previous album, something amazing started to happen throughout hip-hop. There was a sudden influx of artists that were rapping in sing-song. These rappers were not rapping about money and fame mostly, but rather about more serious topics such as drug addiction, love, heartbreak, and depression. These rappers were the ones that were using Cudi's style from his voice, his trippy production, to his entrancing melodies, to even his willingness to share his innermost thoughts and emotions with the audience. Many of these rappers such as Post Malone, Travis Scott, Lil Uzi Vert and later artists like Trippie Redd and Juice WRLD, among many more, all started to emulate Cudi's style through their music, making hip-hop a landscape newly crafted from the ideas of Kid Cudi rather than products and imitations from/of Lil' Wayne's "Young Money" imprint. Not only that but Cudi's newest project, Passion, Pain, and Demon Slayin, ended up being his best project since Indicud and his most focused and cohesive project since Man on the Moon II: The Legend of Mr. Rager. Even though it's opening week was only about 49,000 copies, it performed far better than Speedin Bullet 2 Heaven and provided some hope that he could return to fame. Perhaps the best part about this is how Cudi managed to return to form with the companionship of his then-new found sobriety.

Now back to himself, back on the rise, with his small feuds with mentor Kanye West put behind him, Cudi reunites with West. He even had several collabs with West on his 7th solo album The Life of Pablo, including the 2x platinum hit Father Stretch My Hands Part 1. After the tour for Passion, Pain, and Demon Slayin', Cudi and Kanye formed the experimental hip-hop group named "Kids See Ghosts". The album was only 7 songs long and produced in Jackson Hole, Wyoming. Even without any promo and a severe disadvantage of only 7 songs in an era where more songs equate to more success, it debuted with Cudi's best numbers since Indicud with 142,000 units. If that wasn't impressive enough, it became both Cudi and West's most acclaimed album in 8 years, with Cudi getting acclaim he hasn't seen since Man on the Moon II: The Legend of Mr. Rager, and West getting the most acclaim he's had since he released what is widely considered to be one of the top 3 hip-hop albums of the century and one of the best albums in the history of music, My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy. With this newfound success and a sound that stands out from the rest, it's clear that there is a true chance for Cudi to get the fame and recognition he so richly deserves.

VI. Man on the Moon IV: Epilogue: The Legacy of the Man on the Moon

As delayed as it was, the influence that Kid Cudi had amassed over hip-hop music and even pop culture in general proved to be nothing short of extraordinary. Many of today's biggest artists such as Post Malone, Juice WRLD, and Travis Scott and many more, helped contribute to the widespread epidemic of euphoric hip-hop music that simulated damaged mindsets through heavy synths and hypnotic melodies. The charts have been filled in many places with many of these artists for the past 3-4 years or so. During his time, he was a unique standout in the music industry and many people noticed. Unfortunately, fate would have it that he was too unique to where his efforts would not be appreciated until much later. In great gratitude to the evolving tastes of the general public, a legacy in the name of Kid Cudi has been cemented. The legacy that started with Scott Mescudi became the ultimate rebirth in what hip-hop music is limited in and what it all actually means. He will forever be known for being one of the few that managed to changed the face of music, by only being himself.

The End, and thank you for reading.

P.S. The teacher loved it but gave it a 75 because I formatted it wrong.

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Post Malone's "Hollywood's Bleeding" sells 493K First Week (210K Pure). EARTHGANG's "Mirrorland" sells 12K First Week (2K Pure).

Posted: 14 Sep 2019 09:29 AM PDT

Rank Artist Album Label Pure Sales Sales + Streaming
1 Post Malone Hollywood's Bleeding Republic 210,283 492,854
2 Khalid Free Spirit Right Hand Music/RCA 82,000 202,000
3 Ed Sheeran No.6 Collaborations Project Atlantic 70,000 173,000
4 Tyler, The Creator IGOR Columbia 77,716 172,377
5 Juice WRLD Death Race For Love Grade A/Interscope 42,648 164,076
6 DJ Khaled Father Of Asahd We The Best/Epic 32,466 131,717
7 Young Thug So Much Fun Atlantic 5,142 131,000
8 NF The Search NF Real/Caroline 84,000 130,000
9 Future Future Hndrxx Presents: The WIZRD Freebandz/Epic 11,829 125,251
10 Dreamville Revenge Of The Dreamers III Dreamville/Roc Nation/Interscope 23,000 115,000
11 Drake Care Package OVO/Republic 16,933 109,891
12 Chris Brown Indigo RCA 28,000 108,000
13 Chance The Rapper The Big Day N/A 27,000 108,000
14 Gunna Drip or Drown 2 Young Stoner Life 8,806 89,955
15 Offset FATHER OF 4 Quality Control/Motown/Capitol 6,622 88,311
16 Nav Bad Habits XO/Republic 24,000 82,000
17 Logic Confessions of a Dangerous Mind Def Jam 24,638 81,417
18 ScHoolboy Q CrasH Talk TDE/Interscope 20,479 81,000
19 Rick Ross Port of Miami 2 Epic 25,000 80,000
20 BROCKHAMPTON GINGER RCA 55,428 77,122
21 Lil Nas X 7 Columbia 4,215 77,000
22 Lionel Richie Hello From Las Vegas Capitol 67,256 67,355
23 2 Chainz Rap Or Go To The League Def Jam 14,912 64,960
24 Quality Control Quality Control: Control The Streets Volume 2 Quality Control/Motown/Capitol 2,000 63,000
25 Lil Tecca We Love You Tecca Galactic/Republic 4,048 60,777
26 Anderson .Paak Ventura 12Tone/Interscope 39,000 55,000
27 Lil Skies Shelby Atlantic 6,413 54,270
28 Trippie Redd ! TenThousand 6,662 51,110
29 Beyonce The Lion King: The Gift Parkwood/Colombia 12,135 50,976
30 Jeezy TM104: The Legend of the Snowman Def Jam 22,112 49,983
31 Lil Pump Harverd Dropout Warner Bros. 21,966 45,875
32 Lil Durk Love Songs 4 The Streets 2 Alamo/Interscope 4,000 44,000
33 Solange When I Get Home Columbia 12,549 43,808
34 Rich The Kid The World Is Yours 2 Interscope 1,486 42,323
35 Future SAVE ME Freebandz/Epic 5,000 42,000
36 PnB Rock TrapStar Turnt PopStar Atlantic 1,750 41,983
37 Lizzo Cuz I Love You Atlantic 26,496 41,701
38 Moneybagg Yo 43VA HEARTLESS Interscope 5,000 40,000
39 Machine Gun Kelly Hotel Diablo Bad Boy/Interscope 16,000 39,000
40 Polo G Die A Legend Columbia 833 38,000
41 Beyonce HOMECOMING: THE LIVE ALBUM Parkwood/Columbia 14,175 37,672
42 YG 4REAL 4REAL Def Jam 4,041 36,634
43 Mustard Perfect Ten 10 Summers/Interscope 1,412 36,000
44 J Balvin & Bad Bunny OASIS Universal Music Latino 5,517 36,000
45 Young Dolph & Key Glock Dum and Dummer Paper Route/Empire 1,997 35,337
46 Kehlani While We Wait Atlantic 6,836 33,056
47 Gucci Mane Delusions of Grandeur Atlantic 2,196 31,488
48 Megan Thee Stallion Fever Certified 3,790 27,040
49 YBN Cordae The Lost Boy Atlantic 2,679 25,554
50 Tyga Legendary Last Kings/Empire 3,501 24,280
51 Jaden ERYS MSFTS/Roc Nation 4,558 23,966
52 Nas The Lost Tapes 2 Mass Appeal/Def Jam 12,489 23,617
53 Big K.R.I.T. K.R.I.T. IZ HERE BMG 8,914 22,870
54 Daniel Caesar CASE STUDY 01 Golden Child 1,635 22,412
55 James Blake Assume Form Polydor 9,398 21,215
56 DaBaby Baby On Baby Interscope 1,268 20,593
57 Tee Grizzley Scriptures Grizzley Gang 1,248 20,524
58 YNW Melly We All Shine P2019 497 18,948
59 Bazzi Soul Searching IAmCosmic/Atlantic 1,387 18,873
60 Yelawolf Trunk Muzik 3 Slumerican/Shady/Interscope 12,515 18,767
61 Kirk Franklin LONG LIVE LOVE Fo Yo Soul/RCA 14,550 18,582
62 BLACKPINK Kill This Love YG/Interscope 8,197 18,410
63 Boogie Everythings For Sale Shady/Interscope 3,264 18,397
64 Missy Elliott ICONOLOGY Atlantic 10,982 17,486
65 Denzel Curry ZUU Loma Vista 1,999 17,286
66 Wiz Khalifa & Curren$y 2009 Atlantic 3,591 16,883
67 Kevin Gates Only The Generals Gon Understand Bread Winner's Association 3,956 16,795
68 Freddie Gibbs & Madlib Bandana RCA 6,535 16,604
69 Quando Rondo From the Neighborhood to the Stage NBA/Atlantic 391 16,346
70 Lil Keed Long Live Mexico Young Stoner Life 299 16,311
71 Beast Coast Escape From New York Columbia 7,301 16,093
72 G Herbo & Southside Still Swervin Machine 831 16,028
73 XXXTENTACION XXXTENTACION Presents: Members Only, Vol. 4 Members Only/Empire 1,722 15,791
74 Calboy Wildboy Polo Grounds/RCA 287 15,775
75 Tech N9ne N9NA Strange Music 10,443 15,659
76 Lil Tjay F.N Columbia 349 14,883
77 blackbear ANONYMOUS BearTrap/Alamo/Interscope 5,390 14,473
78 Ugly God Bumps & Bruises Asylum 2,939 13,752
79 Comethazine BAWSKEE 3.5 Alamo 335 13,420
80 Blueface Dirt Bag Cash Money 387 13,209
81 Yung Gravy Sensational Republic 4,510 12,841
82 SAINt JHN Ghetto Lenny's Love Songs Godd Complexx/HitCo 3,613 12,540
83 A$AP Ferg Floor Seats Polo Grounds/RCA 1,148 12,161
84 EARTHGANG Mirrorland Dreamville/Interscope 2,090 11,856
85 Money Man Paranoia Black Circle 621 11,849
86 DJ Snake Carte Blanche Geffen 1,682 11,698
87 Stunna 4 Vegas BIG 4x Billion Dollar Baby/Interscope 400 11,648
88 YFN Lucci 650Luc: Gangsta Grillz Think It's A Game/Warner 1,267 11,227

Top 10 First Weeks of 2019 Across All Genres

Rank Artist Album Label Pure Sales Sales + Streaming
1 Taylor Swift Lover Republic 700,334 885,349
2 Post Malone Hollywood's Bleeding Republic 210,283 492,854
3 Jonas Brothers Happiness Begins Republic 351,495 405,460
4 Ariana Grande thank u, next Republic 111,912 354,954
5 Billie Eilish WHEN WE ALL FALL ASLEEP, WHERE DO WE GO? Darkroom/Interscope 165,277 307,069
6 Tool Fear Inoculum Volcano/RCA 252,120 270,411
7 Backstreet Boys DNA K-Bahn/RCA 229,107 236,196
8 BTS MAP OF THE SOUL: PERSONA BigHit/Columbia 195,676 229,775
9 Khalid Free Spirit Right Hand Music/RCA 82,000 202,000
10 Ed Sheeran No.6 Collaborations Project Atlantic 70,000 173,000

FAQ:

Q: Source?

A: http://hitsdailydouble.com/sales_plus_streaming

Q: How is this list sorted?

A: It's sorted by sales + streaming

Q: What are pure sales?

A: Pure sales are purchases of the album (itunes, amazon, physicals, etc)

Q: Where is X album?

A: Only albums with 10K in sales + streaming are listed

Q: Isn't that kind of low for XXXTENTACION and Beyonce?

A: Members Only, Vol. 4 and Homecoming dropped on a Wednesday meaning that they lost out on 5 days of sales.

Q: Why do some albums show exact sales numbers while others do not?

A: The albums that do not show exact numbers are the ones that have had sales corrections from Billboard

Q: Where can I find last year's list?

A: 2018 list, 2017 list, 2016 list

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Tupac on strong females and being in touch with his feminine side - wholesome

Posted: 14 Sep 2019 11:47 AM PDT

Dreamville - Sacrifices ft. EARTHGANG, J. Cole, Smino & Saba

Posted: 14 Sep 2019 02:50 PM PDT

[DISCUSSION] Noname - Room 25 (One Year Later)

Posted: 14 Sep 2019 06:05 AM PDT

It's been one year since Noname released her second full length project.

What do you think of the album one year on? Did it rank among your favourite albums of 2018? Favourite song on the album? Are you excited for Factory Baby?

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Riff Raff Accused of Bedding High Schooler

Posted: 14 Sep 2019 07:14 AM PDT

JPEGMAFIA - BasicBitchTearGas (Music Video)

Posted: 14 Sep 2019 02:50 PM PDT

IDK - Is He Real? ALBUM REVIEW by Fantano

Posted: 14 Sep 2019 03:24 PM PDT

Flying Lotus (aka Captain Murphy) - Between Villains (ft. MF DOOM & Earl Sweatshirt) [Prod. Thundercat]

Posted: 14 Sep 2019 09:21 PM PDT

ScHoolboy Q - Crash

Posted: 14 Sep 2019 07:12 PM PDT

JPEGMAFIA - Rap Grow Old & Die x No Child Left Behind

Posted: 14 Sep 2019 10:49 AM PDT

BET announced the 2019 Album Of The Year Nominees

Posted: 14 Sep 2019 10:33 AM PDT

ASTROWOLRD - Travis Scott

CHAMPIONSHIPS - Meek Mill

Cuz I Love You - Lizzo

Father Of Asahd - Dj Khaled

IGOR - Tyler, The Creator

Revenge Of The Dreamers 3 - Dreamville

Link to the BET Tweet

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Cam'ron - Oh Boy ft. Juelz Santana

Posted: 14 Sep 2019 03:50 PM PDT

Live streamer encounters dope rapper.

Posted: 14 Sep 2019 12:03 PM PDT

Action Bronson - Twin Peugots feat. Mac Miller & Big Body Bes

Posted: 14 Sep 2019 05:47 AM PDT

Desiigner - Panda

Posted: 14 Sep 2019 12:50 PM PDT

[VIDEO] NAS- It Ain't Hard To Tell (Cookin Soul Remix)

Posted: 14 Sep 2019 08:56 PM PDT

Jay-Z - Roc Boys (And The Winner Is)...

Posted: 14 Sep 2019 07:12 AM PDT

Diplo ft. Trippie Redd - Wish

Posted: 14 Sep 2019 06:39 AM PDT

Eyedea - Quality Programming

Posted: 14 Sep 2019 11:21 PM PDT

Bladee - Backstr€€t Boys feat. Black Kray

Posted: 14 Sep 2019 12:33 PM PDT

Throwback to when Big Daddy Kane dropped the mic and still made it look good

Posted: 14 Sep 2019 02:16 AM PDT

Black Milk - Black and Brown (feat. Danny Brown)

Posted: 14 Sep 2019 08:40 AM PDT

[DISCUSSION] Project Pat - Ghetty Green (20 Years Later)

Posted: 14 Sep 2019 06:57 AM PDT

On September 14, 1999 Project Pat releases his debut album, Ghetty Green after being released from jail. This album is considered by almost everyone to be in his top 3, sometimes even his best, in all his solo discography.

What do you guys think of this album?

I ain't gone lie to y'all. I used to not like Pat before I listened to any of his albums. Idk if it was the beats he was on, or the fact that I thought his verses weren't that good but I never checked out his discography because of this. However, I eventually ended up listening to his compilation-type album called Murderers & Robbers, which I really liked. I did some more research, and I found that this was, for many people, not even considered in his top 3 or even top 5 sometimes. Ok, I must have missed something, so I listened to Ghetty Green first. Oh my god, I love almost every track on this album. My personal faves are Choppers, Ballers (both versions), Rinky Dink 1, Ghetty Green, Out There, And 528-Cash. Pat is a master of creating super intricate flows that sound super smooth over all the beats on this album.

This is one of the only albums that I bump this many songs from and still love them all.

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IDK “IS HE REAL” AMA - HipHop

IDK “IS HE REAL” AMA - HipHop

IDK “IS HE REAL” AMA

Posted: 13 Sep 2019 12:03 PM PDT

HELLO FRIENDS LETS TALK "IS HE REAL?"€ TODAY.

Proof: https://i.redd.it/rm4slrv4zdm31.jpg

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Daily Discussion Thread 09/13/2019

Posted: 13 Sep 2019 08:31 AM PDT

Welcome to the /r/hiphopheads daily discussion thread!

This thread is for:

  • objective questions with right/wrong answers (e.g. "Does anyone know what is happening with MIXTAPE?", "What is the sample in SONG?")
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The OG Carter 5 Leak. All tracks as far as we know

Posted: 13 Sep 2019 10:15 AM PDT

Some of this shit still fire even though its dated.

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https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/1P-02XAtf6yhK_orEZh7qf0FXd4kBUd_y (apparently there has been too many downloads for this google drive link, however the bottom link has a zip file with all the songs in this google drive.)

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alternative link from @lilwaynesnippets on Instagram : https://fromsmash.com/oh5ifK~IrG-c0

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[FIRST IMPRESSIONS] JPEGMAFIA - All My Heroes Are Cornballs

Posted: 13 Sep 2019 06:23 PM PDT

It's been just about 21 hours since this dropped, what are everyone's thoughts on it?

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Megan Thee Stallion signs to Roc Nation

Posted: 13 Sep 2019 01:30 PM PDT

[FRESH VIDEO] slowthai x Denzel Curry - Psycho

Posted: 13 Sep 2019 07:58 AM PDT

A$AP Mob - What Happens (ft. A$AP Rocky, A$AP Ferg, Joey Bada$$, Playboi Carti, Kirk Knight, Nyck Caution, Meechy Darko & Zombie Juice) [prod. RZA]

Posted: 13 Sep 2019 07:07 PM PDT

[FRESH] JPEGMAFIA - Free The Frail (ft. Helena Deland)

Posted: 13 Sep 2019 12:23 PM PDT

Official alternate (vinyl) cover art for JPEGMAFIA's "All my Heroes Are Cornballs" for anyone who may be interested.

Posted: 13 Sep 2019 03:41 PM PDT

Alternate cover art.

I personally am not a big fan of the original cover art and like the vinyl version a lot better, but that doesn't ship until December. So I thought I'd put this up for anyone else who likes it better as well.

Pulled from his website.

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EarthGang - Mirrorland FANTANO ALBUM REVIEW

Posted: 13 Sep 2019 08:57 AM PDT

slowthai - Doorman

Posted: 13 Sep 2019 11:51 AM PDT

[DISCUSSION] 6lack - East Atlanta Love Letter (One Year Later)

Posted: 13 Sep 2019 09:08 PM PDT

It has been one year since 6lack dropped his second studio album "East Atlanta Love Letter" in September of 2018. What are your thoughts on this album one year later?

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Young Thug & Carnage - Liger

Posted: 13 Sep 2019 10:06 AM PDT

JPEGMAFIA - Post Verified Lifestyle

Posted: 13 Sep 2019 07:15 PM PDT

KERWIN FROST TALKS TO CHIEF KEEF (EPISODE 12)

Posted: 13 Sep 2019 04:02 PM PDT

[FRESH] IceJJFish - I Got You

Posted: 13 Sep 2019 11:47 AM PDT

[DISCUSSION] Biggie Smalls - Ready to Die (25 Years Later)

Posted: 13 Sep 2019 04:19 AM PDT

On September 13, 1994 Biggie released his classic debut album Ready to Die. This is a common contender for the best rap album of all time, and is a fantastic and extremely influential album.

I remember very well the first time I heard Ready to Die. This was the first rap album I ever heard and it would have been either 6th or 7th grade. I had been listening to Biggie for a while but this, for me, was an amazing intro to rap. Showed me some of the peak levels of intricate rhymes, flows, BIG's excellent delivery and of course the production is great too. This was the first album I relistened to in high school and that experience solidified in my top 10 forever. I think Suicidal Thoughts was a super important song in general, as it was one of the early songs that discussed mental issues like anxiety, depression, etc in rap. Of course there are other classics like Mind's Playin Tricks On Me but this song genuinely had me in tears and I still tear up listening to it sometimes. My personal favorites are Gimme The Loot (one of the best rap songs ever imo), Suicidal Thoughts, Big Poppa, Juicy, The What, And Warning.

Sorry for the long ass write up. What do you guys think of this album? Is it in your guys' top 10 or top 5?

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Meek Mill Donating 500 Backpacks to Philadelphia Students

Posted: 13 Sep 2019 05:42 PM PDT

EA announce FIFA 20 and FIFA Volta soundtracks, including the likes of Anderson .Paak, BJ the Chicago Kid, GoldLink, Tierra Whack, Skepta, AJ Tracey, and more.

Posted: 13 Sep 2019 09:22 AM PDT

Since Lloyd Banks made some headlines recently, I thought I'd put together a 'must-listen' compilation broken up by category (or mood)

Posted: 13 Sep 2019 04:01 AM PDT

For the house party:

Start It Up ft. Kanye West, Fabolous, Swizz Beats

Beamer, Benz or Bentley

Warrior Pt. 2

Shock The World

Bring it Back

Bomb First

Jackpot

G-Unit - Nah I'm Talking Bout

Grimey:

End of an Era

Good Company

Money, Crime

Untouchable

Hunger

Lyrical:

Passing Me By

Serial Killa

They Love Me in the Hood

How Many MCs

Young & Reckless

Mighty Healthy

Features you may have never heard:

Conway - Bullet Club ft. Lloyd Banks & Benny The Butcher

Kanye West - Christian Dior Denim Flow ft. Pusha T, Kid Cudi, John Legend, Lloyd Banks and Ryan Leslie

Bonus Tweet from Kanye calling Banks top 5

Where I'm At ft. Eminem

Action Bronson - Strictly 4 My Jeeps (Queens Day Remix) ft. LL Cool J & Lloyd Banks

Make it Stack ft. A$AP Rocky

Music for you, your niggas, and anyone you've lost:

No Love

Til The End

Misc. great songs:

Dollar Weight

Open Arms

House Pride

History Pt. 2

Classics (G-Unit included in some):

70 Bars

Nobody Believes Me

I Smell Pussy

Whip Pussy

Hate it or Love it G-Unit Remix

Warrior

I'm so Fly

My Buddy

For you and the lady

Help ft. Keri Wilson

Picture This

The freestyle that jump-started Banks' career:

Victory

Banks early in his career was known for his punchlines and was crowned the "Punch Line King." Here's a compilation of some of his best:

Best of: Punchlines

I deal wit more Hos than a Chinese phone book

Edit: For people telling me I forgot or should've added certain songs, this list is ultimately personal to me. I didn't make this for the sake of being a definitive list, but to create a stepping stone for people to venture out and discover on their own some of his other great work (a lot of which you guys are recommending).

I'm not gonna be adding songs, but if you guys have other recommendations, link them in the comments for easy viewing for people not familiar with the PLK.

Peace

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[FRESH] Charli XCX - Shake It (feat. Big Freedia, CupcakKe, Brooke Candy, Pabllo Vittar)

Posted: 13 Sep 2019 08:01 AM PDT

[FRESH] Open Mike Eagle - The Edge of New Clothes

Posted: 13 Sep 2019 10:21 AM PDT

Dave East, Tony Yayo, Uncle Murda and Busta Rhymes Aboard The Same Flight

Posted: 13 Sep 2019 06:02 PM PDT

SiR's "Chasing Summer" shatters expectations as one of the season's must-listens

Posted: 13 Sep 2019 03:28 PM PDT

Joey Bada$$ - Love Is Only A Feeling

Posted: 13 Sep 2019 11:09 AM PDT
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